[kids-lib] summer reading copyright?
AMEUCHEL at ci.tualatin.or.us
Fri May 28 10:08:47 PDT 2010
I worked with BJ and Debra the year we made the switch to the CSLP. We originally joined in order to save the library staff members who worked on the Summer Reading Committee a lot of work (we did the theme, found the artist, and everything). By joining CSLP, we were able to get high quality artwork and join in a more national theme. If our young patrons were visiting from out of state, they often recognized the artwork that their home library was using. It was great.
This change to a corporation controlling us and our message is very disheartening. It was not the intent with which we joined CSLP. When I heard how much Highsmith controls, it made me physically cringe. I understand that Highsmith is now doing the legwork with the artist and paying the artists’ fees. Maybe the CSLP should step back from this model and do as Debra suggests and hire unknown artists who listen to our needs and wants instead of those of the corporation.
I concur with Debra that there are many years (this included) where I don’t use any of the artwork, or in a very limited manner, due to the juvenile quality of the YA artwork. The goat? Please!
I don’t want to leave CSLP. I would like CSLP to take their power back. Highsmith makes a lot of money off of this program. If they would relinquish control over the printed pieces, I might feel more inclined to purchase more items from them, as I have done in the past years. This year, I purchased less than $50 worth.
My two cents,
Teen Services Librarian
City of Tualatin | Tualatin Public Library
18878 SW Martinazzi Avenue, Tualatin, OR 97062-7092
503-691-3083 | www.ci.tualatin.or.us <http://www.ci.tualatin.or.us>
From: kids-lib-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:kids-lib-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of BOGART Debra S
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 10:00 AM
To: 'BJ Toewe'; '(kids-lib at listsmart.osl.state.or.us)'; '(oyan at listsmart.osl.state.or.us)'; Katie Anderson
Subject: Re: [kids-lib] summer reading copyright?
I agree with BJ; my memory, from serving as CSD chair the year that Oregon joined the collaborative, is that originally CSLP did solely own the copyright to the art and did not own it jointly with Highsmith. So I believe that has changed over the years. I agree that many libraries, including ours, are or could be easily priced out of the market with Highsmith’s materials. We don’t use reading records, but if we did have to purchase the 7500+ that we’d need, it would put a large dent in either our programming or the number of free books we could give away.
Perhaps the cost of using a well-known illustrator has sky-rocketed in the past five years. But it is also true that this year and last year, we have liked only a few of the individual clip art graphics and have disliked several of them and chosen not to use them anyway. So many libraries or states might be happy with lower cost art from lesser known artists? Just some more thoughts for our representatives to take to the meeting, thank you-
Summer Reading Co-Coordinator
Eugene Public Library
From: kids-lib-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:kids-lib-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of BJ Toewe
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 3:03 PM
To: '(kids-lib at listsmart.osl.state.or.us)'; '(oyan at listsmart.osl.state.or.us)'; Katie Anderson
Subject: Re: [kids-lib] summer reading copyright?
I am supposed to be out of the summer reading loop but can't contain my thoughts on this, in spite of trying really hard.
I would like to see delegates to CSLP actively lobby for changes to this rule. There seems to be less validity in participating in a cooperative that disallows use of the summer reading program clip art for customized reading logs, final certificates, etc. While I understand that Highsmith would like to be sole source for all things reading club, their pricing doesn't make it possible for many, many libraries to order their products. While I value things that many libraries would never be able to afford - a large vinyl banner in full color, a variety of t-shirts sporting the summer theme, full color bookmarks - I question the wisdom of CSLP negotiating a contract that won't allow a small library to print off reading logs or certificates on their photocopier using that summer's clip art. One of the main reasons for joining this cooperative was the ability to obtain high quality art work that would have been unaffordable for Oregon to obtain on its own. However, the strength of branding is negated when libraries are not allowed to use that artwork to create their summer reading materials.
I know from when I was the CSLP rep that Highsmith enjoys a really wonderful return on the investment it makes of time and money to produce these materials. I also know that CSLP benefits with a percentage kickback from Highsmith that can be used to reinvest in continuing this venture from year to year. I don't think that either entity would find participation in future years unaffordable if this rule was changed. Perhaps total income would go down but making this program work for libraries with smaller reading club budgets should be an important aspect as well. Finally, if this is untenable to Highsmith, we all know of other vendors who might be interested in collaborating with CSLP, even with the change in clip art rules. While I'm not advocating for moving from Highsmith as our vendor, I do think that the rules for use of clip art are in drastic need of change.
If my assessment of this situation doesn't accurately reflect the views of youth services librarians around the state, please do weigh in on the subject. I certainly haven't taken the time to make calls and survey librarians around the state.
My two (long-winded) cents....
Salem Public Library
PO Box 14810
Salem, OR 97309
bjtoewe at cityofsalem.net <mailto:bjtoewe at cityofsalem.net>
>>> Katie Anderson <katie.anderson at state.or.us> 5/26/2010 4:12 PM >>>
Hello! I just received the following question, and thought you all might like to know the answer.
Katie, maybe I am misunderstanding but it seems that some of the Oregon libraries are misunderstanding the copyright issue – basically to not compete with items already sold by Highsmith/upstart? I think they are seeing it as all clipart being copyrighted by highsmith and unable to be used by them when in fact they can use the clipart for their everything that is not duplicating what highsmith currently sales in their catalog? If I’m wrong on this, please correct me.
Yes, you are correct! Both the clip-art in the manual and by the artists can be used for products that do not duplicate what Highsmith currently offers.
The clarification is around what is considered a duplication of paper products. For example, many libraries around the country have different reading goals/records, therefore the reading records offered by Highsmith don’t work for them. In the past we thought it was OK to use the clip-art to create our own reading record because Highsmith didn’t offer a similar reading record. This year we learned that since Highsmith offers a reading record we can’t use the clip-art to create a different type of reading record. We can still use the art on sign-up forms, events calendars, booklists, event promotions/signs/brochures, and other materials not available to purchase from Highsmith/Upstart.
Katie Anderson, Library Development Services
* Youth Services Consultant * Oregon Center for the Book Coordinator *
Oregon State Library, 250 Winter St. NE, Salem, OR 97301
katie.anderson at state.or.us, 503-378-2528
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