[Libs-Or] 2 library policy questions

Heather Pitts heather.pitts at state.or.us
Tue Feb 18 11:57:10 PST 2014


That’s correct; it only applies to state agency buildings and state agency property, and it actually excludes (in section 1c) the Oregon University System and Oregon community colleges as well, but encourages their respective boards to develop their own policies on tobacco use. I mainly wanted to point out an example where e-cigarettes are treated the same as tobacco products.

Heather

From: Libs-Or [mailto:libs-or-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Buzzy Nielsen
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I believe that the EO is only relevant to your library if it's considered state property, which would include the public universities and community colleges but not most other types of libraries.

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On 02/18/2014 10:56 AM, Colin Rea wrote:
Heather-  The e-cigarettes are specifically prohibited in 1a (employees) but not 1b (our patrons).  Am I reading that right?

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FWIW, e-cigarettes are banned on state property by executive order: http://www.oregon.gov/gov/docs/executive_orders/eo_12-13.pdf

Here is a fact sheet from the Oregon Health Authority: http://library.state.or.us/repository/2014/201401211107412/

As well as a primer on e-cigarettes: http://library.state.or.us/repository/2014/201401211105442/

Heather

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I had a discussion about e-cigs with my board, and they understood the concern but couldn’t find any legal basis for banning them.  I’m afraid we have to wait for the state legislature to act, and they’ve already pushed it aside once.  I think the real issue for most of us is that kids don’t necessarily understand the difference between the real thing and an electronic one, and it’s not a behavior we want them to see and model.  Realistically you can either  (a) ban them and wait for a complaint to see if it holds up,  (b)treat them as a tobacco product, enforce the no smoking policy, and wait for a complaint to see if it holds up, or (c) allow them but politely ask patrons to consider their surroundings and voluntarily abstain.   We’re leaning toward (b) or (c).

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From what I know of them, they are a vapor, not smoke. They come in different flavors so the scent is not a bad one. I don't know why it would be at this point, since the reason for the ban, really, is the danger of smoking, not the smell.

On Monday, February 17, 2014 12:33 PM, Shannon Van Kirk <SVanKirk at bluecc.edu<mailto:SVanKirk at bluecc.edu>> wrote:
Saw a documentary on e-cogs and med folks quoted said that there have not been enough studies done to make a statement either way about 2nd-hand vapor.  So far all we really know is that the combustion particles are not there.  That’s good, but not enough.

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Seems a bit odd to include them since the by-product is not harmful to others.

Judy

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Had an interesting pro/con set of articles about “vaping” (e-cigs) in Sunday’s Eugene Register Guard. Sadly looks like you have to subscribe to view them online ☹ It will be interesting to see the debate over whether they are or should be included in smoking bans.


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We have a portion of our Code of Conduct that addresses "Disturbing other library patrons or staff through extremely poor personal hygiene." I've never had to enforce it at this library, but I did at my last library. We directed the patron, who was living in her van with three cats, to a shelter that had washing machines that she could use.

We forbid smoking and using tobacco products on all of our grounds. It's also a part of our Code of Conduct. It doesn't specifically mention e-cigarettes, although I don't think it would be a far stretch to include e-cigarettes under "smoking". My understanding is that they do release a vapor.

Here's a link to our full Code of Conduct:
http://www.hoodriverlibrary.org/files/policies/Code%20of%20conduct.pdf

Cheers!
Buzzy

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On 02/14/2014 03:53 PM, Craig Carter wrote:

Hello everyone,



We have been discussing two separate policy questions, and want to get some feedback from other libraries on how they handle each of them.

The first has to do with patrons with personal hygiene challenges. Do you have a policy that deals with this, and if so, what is your policy? Do you offer any resources to these patrons as far as someplace they could go to shower/bathe and/or get their clothes washed?



The second has to do with e-cigarettes. Do you have a policy that addresses them? If so, what is it? What about chewing tobacco? Do you lump all tobacco-related issues into one blanket policy, or are they separate?



Thanks in advance for your input!



Craig Carter

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Tigard Public Library

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