[Libs-Or] Editorial response to OLAQ 25(2)

Stephanie Debner stephanie.debner at gmail.com
Wed Nov 13 14:59:02 PST 2019

In response to Deirdre's question, I posted a message relevant to the
conversation. I did not receive any kind of warning about the content of my

I was inspired to re-read the listserv guidelines, and there is this
statement, which I think is very important here: "Remember that disagreeing
with an idea is different from
attacking an individual." When I re-read Max's original post, he was taking
issue with the article.

I find it interesting that the charge of "unprofessional" was leveraged at
someone who shared a critique of a piece of writing and challenged his
colleagues to re-examine it. It seems like that charge was pulled out as a
way of tone policing Max and shutting him down. Being "professional" often
falls under broader aspects of language of civility. For an understanding
of the language of civility and tone policing, see this blog post by
sociologist Dr Zuleyka Zevallo:

I am glad that Max raised this critique and opened the dialogue that others
have shared in.

Stephanie Debner

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> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 14:06:53 -0800
> From: Diedre Conkling <diedre08 at gmail.com>
> To: libs-or <libs-or at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> Subject: Re: [Libs-Or] Editorial Response to OLAQ 25(2)
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> Oops, that should have read person of color (not on).
> I am wondering if anyone else, other than Max, participating in this
> discussion has received a warning about inappropriate postings to libs-or.
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 1:54 PM Diedre Conkling <diedre08 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I am so glad that Max posted about this article.  It has led to some very
> > good discussion on this list and elsewhere.  It is too bad that the
> > discussion had to be started by a person on color.
> >
> > It is also too bad that someone complained to the State Library saying
> > that his post was inappropriate and unprofessional. He has been warned by
> > the State Library.  I read his post and said to myself that this post is
> > going to make some very uncomfortable.  Being uncomfortable with a post
> > doesn?t make it inappropriate or unprofessional.
> >
> > I have read the libs-or guidelines along side Max?s original post and
> > don?t believe it went against the guidelines.  It was a valid criticism.
> As
> > librarians we should be willing to look deeper into issues that make us
> > uncomfortable.  I think that in this case the discomfort really points
> out
> > the white privilege many of us have.
> >
> > Again, I?m so very happy that Max was willing to take this on even though
> > he knew there would be backlash from some.  Thank you State Library for
> > sponsoring a discussion list that allows us to really discuss these
> > important issues.
> >
> > --
> > *Diedre Conkling*
> > *diedre08 at gmail.com* <diedre08 at gmail.com>
> >
> > ?If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change
> > your attitude.??Maya Angelou
> >
> --
> *Diedre Conkling*
> *diedre08 at gmail.com* <diedre08 at gmail.com>
> ?If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change
> your attitude.??Maya Angelou
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