[techtalk] Tech-Talk: SOFTWARE - Moving and Working with Files Between Google and Microsoft

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 This Week's Tech-Talk: SOFTWARE

1. VIDEO ... Moving and Working on Files Between Google and Microsoft
2. ARTICLE ... Moving and Working on Files Between Google and Microsoft
3. COMMUNICATING ... Watch how you give a compliment

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Tech-Talk: SOFTWARE: Move Files Between Microsoft & Google

A recent Tech-Talk reader asked us (through our "Ask a Question" feature)…

"How can I move a Word document into Google and work on it there?"

Of course we replied immediately and thought this would make a great article for everyone. And before we get into the nitty-gritty details, let's look at the big picture.

[Google and MS]

Collaborating or Working Remotely?

A Collaborating Need: A colleague and I are working on a project and we need to draft a proposal, together. I prefer using Microsoft Word, but she does everything in Google Docs.

Instead of creating the project in Word and emailing it to her to upload to her Google Docs account, I simply loaded it to my Google account and "shared" the file with her.

This way we are both able to view (and work) in the same document - at the same time. I can actually see her changes as she types in the file (and we aren't sharing screens).


A Remote Access Need: You're working on an important report, but you're not always at the desk in your office. It's due in a few days. You want to grab some work time when you're at another location and at home. So, you move the Word document from your desktop folder and put it into your Google Docs. Now, when you have a few minutes offsite, you can reach into your internet folder and continue working.

A Compatibility Need: OK, you've got a joint report to create with a colleague from another organization. You work with PCs; she uses a Mac. Sure, you can both use some form of Microsoft Word, emailing back and forth ... or you can choose the neutral, mutually compatible software: Google Docs. This way you don't have to worry about conversion mishaps.

A Backup Need: Maybe you want another way to "back up" your documents. Files uploaded to your Google account are saved to protected (and backed-up) servers so it's a great way to keep copies of important files.

Microsoft vs. Google

In the past, Microsoft and Google haven't always "played well" together. But now it seems they are making the co-mingling of document types a bit easier. As we move to a "cloud-based" world, creating, editing and saving in a web tool gives you all kinds of advantages.

By the way, this article isn't a comparison or debate about which platform to use, but more of a "you're most likely to encounter situations where you're working with someone using a different platform than yours" -- so knowing a few basics about sharing and conversion will be helpful.

Get Familiar with the Lingo

If you're used to working in Microsoft Office documents, here are the equivalent types of Google programs and icons.

[Google vs MS]


NOTE: While Google and Microsoft office documents are different software programs, for the most part, they mimic each other. So when you move from one world to another, the content stays the same, but not necessarily the formatting. You may have to adjust such things as fonts, bullets or bolded text.

Where Your Documents Live


To use Google products you first need to have a (free) account. If you don't have one, go ahead and sign up.

Then log into your account by going to Google.com and click the blue Sign In button in the top right.

Once you're logged into your account, a grid of boxes (see green circle in the image) appears next to your picture icon. This is how you access your collection of Google apps (programs) where Google Drive resides.

You'll see that the file organization in Google Drive (the "hub" for all your documents) is similar to Windows File Explorer.

[Google Drive]

This is where files are stored including PDFs, images, videos and forms as well as Google Docs, Sheets and Slides.

You can use Google Drive to just SAVE / STORE your files ... and you can use its online tools to CREATE and EDIT documents.

How to Upload MS Documents to Google

When you want to upload an existing Word, Excel or PowerPoint document to edit and/or share in Google:

·     From your Google Drive account, click the blue New button and choose File Upload.
·     Navigate to the file you want to load.
·     Once loaded, click on the file name in Drive.
·     There will be a message at the top of the screen to "Open with Google (Docs, Sheets or Slides)" depending on the file type.
·     Click that option to open in the corresponding program.

NOTE: Some of the formatting may not carry over from the MS version.

[Open with Google Sheets]


If you already have a Word, Excel or PowerPoint file saved in Google Drive, here's how to convert it to one of the Google formats.

·     Right-click on the file in Google Drive.
·     Select, Open with and then choose Google Doc, Sheets or Slides.
·     Your document will be converted.

How to Download a File from Google Apps

To download a file from either Google Docs, Sheets or Slides (no matter if it is an original Google file type or a converted MS one):

·     With the file open in either Google Drive OR in the app you're working in (Docs, Sheets or Slides), go to File, and choose Download as.
·     Depending on the file type, you'll have format choices.
·     In the example below, the file is in Google Slides and we want to download it as a PowerPoint file.


How to Share a Google File

When you want to share a document you have saved in your Google account, there are a few ways to do this.

If you're in your Google Drive, hover over the file, right-click and choose Share.
If you're in the document, in the upper right corner click on the blue Share button.


In either case:
·     A Share window will open.
·     Either click the “Get shareable link” in the upper right and paste that into an email to send to them.
·     Type in the email of the person(s) that you would like to share.
·     Use the drop-down menu under the pencil icon to select if you want to give the ability to Edit, Comment or just View the file.
·     Click Send.

BONUS! Use the Suggest Edits and Comments Option

Google has now made it possible for you to "suggest edits" or "comment" in the Docs app -- as we've always been able to do in Word.

When you're working collaboratively with someone on a document, you can turn on the Suggest Edits feature. This way any modifications you make in the document will be highlighted for the file owner to use or delete.


Turn On the "Suggesting" Option

When you have the Doc open, in the upper right, the default setting is set to Editing. Click the drop-down option to choose Suggesting.

The changes you make in the document will be noted to the right for the author to accept or delete.

[Edit and Suggest]


Communications: Compliments
Comment on the act ... not the person

Do you like receiving a compliment? Of course, you do. Everyone does. But... the way you phrase it can be somewhat hurtful and issue a challenge ... instead of providing the warm and comfortable feeling you want to generate.

Here's what the pitfall is ... making the compliment be about the person, rather than what the person has done. Here are some examples:

·     OK: You write great reports.
·     Better: That report you wrote is great.

·     OK: You're good at puzzles.
·     Better: You finished that puzzle really fast.

·     OK: Thank you, that was sweet and generous of you to send a gift.
·     Better: Thank you, that was a sweet and generous gift you sent.

Certainly being told "You write great reports" makes you feel good, but it also brings with it a judgment about you and provides pressure to continually live up to the statement in the future ... to keep the judgment of being a good report-writer in place.

Hearing, "That report you wrote is great." lets you swell with pride without any further expectations on you.

Children are especially susceptible to this type of subtle differences. People just feel better when they know they did well, without having to live up to a certain reputation.


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