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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Juniper GIS’s use of the list seems entirely appropriate, responsible and useful to subscribers.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I should not have used the word “advertising” to describe the excessive posting that I find annoying. Apologies to responsible list users.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> gis_info-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:gis_info-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>John Schaeffer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 16, 2012 8:08 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'ARABAS Edward P * EISPD ITIP'; gis_info@listsmart.osl.state.or.us<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'SMITH Cy * EISPD GEO'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gis_info] Inappropriate email<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">Hi,</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">I did think the emails Ian mentioned were a bit over the top, but would like to see this list kept open for some advertising, but it should be brief and to the point.
When my company, Juniper GIS, offers classes, I think this is useful information and a service to members, but I purposely keep it brief with a link to more information, and rarely advertise the same offering twice. And I think that the subject line should
be very explicit about the email, so people can easily decide when to use the Delete key.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">thanks</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoAutoSig" style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">John Schaeffer, GISP, CTT+, CTP</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoAutoSig" style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Juniper GIS</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoAutoSig" style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">541-389-6225 cell: 541-390-4996</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoAutoSig" style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><a href="http://www.junipergis.com/">www.junipergis.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:gis_info-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us">gis_info-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</a> [<a href="mailto:gis_info-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us">mailto:gis_info-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>ARABAS Edward P * EISPD ITIP<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 16, 2012 7:58 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gis_info@listsmart.osl.state.or.us">gis_info@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> SMITH Cy * EISPD GEO<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gis_info] Inappropriate email</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hello list,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">While I share Ian’s concern that the listserve not become an advertising channel for who-knows-what, the “purpose” statement does not specifically preclude that usage. Perhaps we could underscore the “within
the State of Oregon” phrase, but that would effectively cut-off announcements about activities in Washington that I find quite valuable. Here is the entire purpose statement:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">“The purpose of this list is to provide a forum for discussion about GIS and spatial data related activities within the State of Oregon. Potential topics include notices of current GIS activities, requests about
the availability of datasets, questions about technical problems with GIS systems or software, requests for advice from those who have gone before you, and so forth.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">If we want to eliminate announcements about activities that are extra-regional, perhaps some explicit guidance about that should be included in the purpose description for the list. I have explicitly cc’d the
list administrators on this email.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Please feel free to discuss. I think this is an important change that should not be undertaken based on one comment. I have made liberal use of the “delete” key in the past related to this issue…
</span><span style="font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy">Ed Arabas, GISP</span></b><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Senior Operations & Policy Analyst</span><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">State of Oregon Dept of Administrative Services</span><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">(503) 378-6111<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Data Classification: Level 1 - Published</span><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:gis_info-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us">gis_info-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</a> [<a href="mailto:gis_info-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us">mailto:gis_info-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Reid, Ian - NRCS, Portland, OR<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 16, 2012 7:24 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gis_info@listsmart.osl.state.or.us">gis_info@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [gis_info] Inappropriate email<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">I’m continually receiving emails from “<a href="mailto:gis_info-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us%20on%20behalf%20of%20Andrew%20Clark%20[aclark@com-geo.org]">gis_info-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us
on behalf of Andrew Clark [aclark@com-geo.org]</a>” . This is advertising as far as I am concerned and seems like an inappropriate use of the list.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">What do you think?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Ian</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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