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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks for the messages today. We definitely want the listserv to remain valuable for all users.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>In the past, we have had an informal policy not to allow advertising, and when asked, we’ve told folks not to send explicit advertising for GIS products or services to this listserv. So even though that’s not excluded as part of our officlal purpose statement, it generally doesn’t happen.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>When someone does send advertising for a product or service that is not an education or training opportunity, we have asked them not to repeat such posts. So far, we have not been forced to remove or ban anyone from the list for continuing to post unwanted or inappropriate messages.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>My inclination is to continue with our current practice. If we continue to have a problem, we can escalate. Please don’t hesitate to let me or Dave Mather, the co-administrator for this listserv, know if you continue to feel like you’re receiving inappropriate messages here.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>cy<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Cy Smith, Oregon State GIO</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>DAS/EISPD Geospatial Enterprise Office</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Secretary, Coalition of Geospatial Organizations (COGO)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Past President, Urban & Regional Info Sys Assoc (URISA)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Past President, Natl States Geographic Info Council (NSGIC)</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>503-378-6066 <a href="http://gis.oregon.gov">http://gis.oregon.gov</a> </span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ARABAS Edward P * EISPD ITIP <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 16, 2012 7:58 AM<br><b>To:</b> gis_info@listsmart.osl.state.or.us<br><b>Cc:</b> SMITH Cy * EISPD GEO; MATHER David * EISPD GEO<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: Inappropriate email<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hello list,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>While I share Ian’s concern that the listserve not become an advertising channel for who-knows-what, the “purpose” statement does not specifically preclude that usage. Perhaps we could underscore the “within the State of Oregon” phrase, but that would effectively cut-off announcements about activities in Washington that I find quite valuable. Here is the entire purpose statement:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>“The purpose of this list is to provide a forum for discussion about GIS and spatial data related activities within the State of Oregon. Potential topics include notices of current GIS activities, requests about the availability of datasets, questions about technical problems with GIS systems or software, requests for advice from those who have gone before you, and so forth.”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>If we want to eliminate announcements about activities that are extra-regional, perhaps some explicit guidance about that should be included in the purpose description for the list. I have explicitly cc’d the list administrators on this email.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Please feel free to discuss. I think this is an important change that should not be undertaken based on one comment. I have made liberal use of the “delete” key in the past related to this issue… </span><span style='font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Ed Arabas, GISP</span></b><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Senior Operations & Policy Analyst</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>State of Oregon Dept of Administrative Services</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>(503) 378-6111<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Data Classification: Level 1 - Published</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:gis_info-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us">gis_info-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</a> [<a href="mailto:gis_info-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us">mailto:gis_info-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Reid, Ian - NRCS, Portland, OR<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 16, 2012 7:24 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gis_info@listsmart.osl.state.or.us">gis_info@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [gis_info] Inappropriate email<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I’m continually receiving emails from “<a href="mailto:gis_info-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us%20on%20behalf%20of%20Andrew%20Clark%20[aclark@com-geo.org]">gis_info-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us on behalf of Andrew Clark [aclark@com-geo.org]</a>” . This is advertising as far as I am concerned and seems like an inappropriate use of the list.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>What do you think?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Ian</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><br><br><br><br>This electronic message contains information generated by the USDA solely for the intended recipients. Any unauthorized interception of this message or the use or disclosure of the information it contains may violate the law and subject the violator to civil or criminal penalties. If you believe you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete the email immediately. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html>