<p>Allison,</p>
<p>I'm not as bitter as you might think. Simply, I have just woke up to what's going on. Most folks new to GIS find it as a stepping stone to something else after a short time. It is not an occupation, well some folks think it is, it is rather a discipline. You can download QGIS at home for free and learn what you need to in two weeks, differently but in the same way as your expensive college education.</p>
<p>For me I'm doing very well I just need to work for two weeks out of the month, depending. Everybody else has to put in 40hrs a week to get by and pay on their student loans.</p>
<p>Jim</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Oct 16, 2012 9:12 PM, "Allison Jones" <<a href="mailto:pdxplanning@gmail.com">pdxplanning@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Jim, <br><br>I am in the private sector, a recent college graduate who just recently started my career profession in GIS and Lidar. Surveying is dead Jim. Move on. The govt is slowly shrinking by lack of funds, ie: they aren't replacing those that are getting early retirement. If you can't find work it might be due to: a: your lack of current marketable skills, and b: your bad attitude. Networking is crucial in this business (that's how I got my first job) and this state/town/city is very small when you start meeting people.<br>
<br>I hope you can figure it out so that you aren't bitter your whole life. <br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 8:46 PM, Jim <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mrnewdaddy@gmail.com" target="_blank">mrnewdaddy@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p>As I expected I am becoming unpopular, shucks-this almost hurts my feelings.</p>
<p>The fact is that I expect this reaction, furthermore the very same folks trying to expell me are the ones enjoying a day or partial day off from work to go to an unnecessary meeting, (indirect costs always higher than direct costs) thinking that more than 60% of members to this list are government folks, and are lurking to find the next meeting to attend. Stop the waste on the backs of taxpayers, both struggling, underemployed, and unemployed!!! Private Sector move in!!</p>
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<p>Jim</p>
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