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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Friends,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">“Jim” is a troll, trying to ruin a perfectly good listserv. Please stop sending email to him or responding to his posts. Maybe he will go away. If not, we can just all delete his email and
continue to use this fine listserv as we have been.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Sorry to respond to his post.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> gis_info-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:gis_info-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jim<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 17, 2012 12:36 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Allison Jones; gis_info@listsmart.osl.state.or.us<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gis_info] Being Unpopular but doing the right thing<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>Allison,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I'm not as bitter as you might think. Simply, I have just woke up to what's going on. Most folks new to GIS find it as a stepping stone to something else after a short time. It is not an occupation, well some folks think it is, it is rather a discipline.
You can download QGIS at home for free and learn what you need to in two weeks, differently but in the same way as your expensive college education.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>For me I'm doing very well I just need to work for two weeks out of the month, depending. Everybody else has to put in 40hrs a week to get by and pay on their student loans.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Jim<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Oct 16, 2012 9:12 PM, "Allison Jones" <<a href="mailto:pdxplanning@gmail.com">pdxplanning@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Jim, <br>
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I am in the private sector, a recent college graduate who just recently started my career profession in GIS and Lidar. Surveying is dead Jim. Move on. The govt is slowly shrinking by lack of funds, ie: they aren't replacing those that are getting early
retirement. If you can't find work it might be due to: a: your lack of current marketable skills, and b: your bad attitude. Networking is crucial in this business (that's how I got my first job) and this state/town/city is very small when you start meeting
people.<br>
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I hope you can figure it out so that you aren't bitter your whole life. <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 8:46 PM, Jim <<a href="mailto:mrnewdaddy@gmail.com" target="_blank">mrnewdaddy@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>As I expected I am becoming unpopular, shucks-this almost hurts my feelings.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>The fact is that I expect this reaction, furthermore the very same folks trying to expell me are the ones enjoying a day or partial day off from work to go to an unnecessary meeting, (indirect costs always higher than direct costs) thinking that more than
60% of members to this list are government folks, and are lurking to find the next meeting to attend. Stop the waste on the backs of taxpayers, both struggling, underemployed, and unemployed!!! Private Sector move in!!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="color:#888888">Jim<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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