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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='margin-left:3.0pt;margin-top:3.0pt;margin-right:3.0pt;margin-bottom:.75pt'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thank Brady, this came through right after I sent my message. Glad to hear the explanation. Erik is on vacation for a couple weeks, I’m sure he’ll respond, too, when he returns.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>cy<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cy Smith, Oregon State GIO</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>DAS/EISPD Geospatial Enterprise Office</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>President, Urban/Regional Info Sys Assoc. (URISA)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Secretary, Coalition of Geospatial Organizations (COGO)</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Past President, Natl. States Geographic Info. Council (NSGIC)</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>503-378-6066 <a href="http://gis.oregon.gov">http://gis.oregon.gov</a> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> gpl_list-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:gpl_list-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Brady Callahan<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:43 AM<br><b>To:</b> Erik ENDRULAT; gpl_list@listsmart.osl.state.or.us; Matthieu Denuelle; Dorothy Mortenson; Ken Smith; tchaddad@gmail.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [gpl_list] Aerial Photo web services<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'>Thanks for the info and examples Dorothy. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'>As a related FYI about the 2009 imagery, in case folks missed it, Erik posted an Imagery Update from Geo message on GovSpace last month following the GPL discussion about the service(s) status. <a href="https://govspace.oregon.gov/community/agencies/das/geo/gpl/blog/2011/06/17/imagery-update-from-geo">https://govspace.oregon.gov/community/agencies/das/geo/gpl/blog/2011/06/17/imagery-update-from-geo</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'>In the details, Erik notes that the 2009 WM is only cached to 1:36K (which is why Dorothy's example looks so bad). This is confirmed when you examine the REST endpoint for the service as the largest available scale is 1:36111. On the other hand the 2009 ORLAM is also 1:36K statewide but 1:2256K in PDX though Erik notes that he plans to do the whole state at this scale. So scale 1:2256 shows up via the REST endpoint even if the tiles aren't available everywhere.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'>Brady Callahan, GISP<br>GIS Program Leader<br>Oregon Parks & Recreation<br>725 Summer St NE, Ste C<br>Salem, OR 97301<br>brady.callahan@state.or.us<br><br>ph. 503-986-0783<br>fax. 503-986-0792<br><br>>>> Dorothy Mortenson <mortendc@wrd.state.or.us> 7/20/2011 8:25 AM >>><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>FYI:</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Here are some examples of being able to zoom in with the aerial photos. It would be wonderful if the ESRI service would allow one or two more zoom levels in the rural areas. If there are any other web services I should be aware of (using projection 102100), please let me know.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Dorothy </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>ESRI image service:</span></strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:blue'>http://services.arcgisonline.com/ArcGIS/rest/services/World_Imagery/MapServer<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>In urban areas, we can zoom in closer. In rural areas, we cannot zoom to the same scale as urban areas.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Roughly:</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>1.2" = 100 ft in urban areas</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>1.5" = 500 ft in rural areas</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>This is the esri web service as far as it can zoom in a rural area (near La Grande):</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><img border=0 width=440 height=355 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CC46C1.FD802D10"></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>For GEO</span></strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>, we can zoom to whatever scale we need, but the quality is very poor.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:blue'><a href="http://navigator.state.or.us/ArcGIS/rest/services/BaseMaps/BaseMap_Imagery2009_WM/MapServe">http://navigator.state.or.us/ArcGIS/rest/services/BaseMaps/BaseMap_Imagery2009_WM/MapServe</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>This is the same area and zoom using the GEO 2009 imagery (in projection 102100). It's not even recognizable.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><img border=0 width=402 height=419 id="_x0000_i1026" src="cid:image002.jpg@01CC46C1.FD802D10"></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Dorothy Mortenson</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Oregon Water Resources Department</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>(503)986-0857</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>