[HistoricCemeterieslistserv] Administrative feeplan or procedure

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Judy - thanks I will follow up on your suggestions. Ernie

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> On Mar 19, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Historic Cemeteries <historiccemeteries at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> wrote:
> 
> Ernie, have you checked the OCHC's Long Range Planning Workbook?  It's online at the Oregon Heritage Commission - Historic Cemeteries site.  I think it would really help.  You can establish a plan based on the needs of your cemetery. Folks I have talked to have found the workbook a good guide.  Kuri's suggestion about contacting the Cemetery Assn. of Oregon is also a good idea.
> 
> Judy Juntunen 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Historic Cemeteries <historiccemeteries at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> To: historiccemeteries <historiccemeteries at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> Sent: Wed, Mar 19, 2014 10:18 am
> Subject: Re: [HistoricCemeterieslistserv] Administrative feeplan	or	procedure
> 
> Ernie, I do not think there is lack of interest..perhaps just wondering 
> exactly how to respond in a written format.
> 
> Several of the cemeteries in our County are county owned...we pay taxes to 
> support the cemetery's.  The plots are sold, and at the time of burial...be 
> that the plot(s) were purchased years and years ago or just before the 
> burial, there is an additional fee for opening and closing the grave.  A 
> portion of that fee is paid to the grave digger.  There are summer 
> employees, plus a secretary and another employee that is part time year 
> around.
> 
> Each county and cemetery is different from another and you just have to make 
> a list of what you want, what you do not want and include in each side the 
> feasibility cost wise of each 'rule'.
> 
> I believe each cemetery needs a written set of rules and regulations.  What 
> is included in forever care of the cemetery and who owns the land?  Will the 
> soil be watered or is it reasonable to even water for a green grass lawn? 
> Some cemeteries are natural and totally beautiful, but need weed 
> control--i.e.---be it cut or sprayed.  The soil is the key element here plus 
> the availability of cost effective water and watering systems.  Who takes 
> care of a toppling stone?  Who repairs the fencing?  Gates?
> 
> As Kuri previously stated, be very careful using the word 'perpetual' in the 
> care of the cemetery.
> 
> Diane
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Historic Cemeteries
> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 8:10 AM
> To: historiccemeteries at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
> Subject: Re: [HistoricCemeterieslistserv] Administrative feeplan or 
> procedure
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I'm somewhat surprised of the lack of responses to a request of information 
> regarding administrative fees. I'm  very grateful of the two responses 
> received giving worthy advice. Is there a lack of interest from those 
> directly/indirectly involved with cemetery's?
> 
> Take care,
> 
> Ernie
> 
> Sent from Ernie's iPhone
> 
> > On Mar 17, 2014, at 7:15 AM, Historic Cemeteries 
> > <historiccemeteries at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> wrote:
> >
> > I'll pipe in here. Br careful in using the term perpetual care. That is a 
> > specific legal term and relates to perpetual care funds which have very 
> > specific and cumbersome requirements. You might check in with the Cemetery 
> > Association of Oregon, they are in the know about operating cemeteries and 
> > are super helpful.
> >
> >
> > Kuri
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: HistoricCemeteries 
> > [mailto:historiccemeteries-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of 
> > Historic Cemeteries
> > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 2:19 AM
> > To: historiccemeteries at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
> > Subject: Re: [HistoricCemeterieslistserv] Administrative fee plan or 
> > procedure
> >
> > Perpetual care is usually included in opening and closing cost. A portion 
> > is set aside for upkeep and care of the cemetery.
> >
> > There are restrictions and rules on use of perpetual care funds. Each 
> > state has regulations covering this.
> >
> > Texas requires mansoleum if perpetual care fee is charged.
> >
> > David Samuelsen
> >
> >> On 3/16/2014 7:34 PM, Historic Cemeteries wrote:
> >> When does one pay for perpetual care?  What is it?  How is it
> >> different from the open and closing cost and prices of each?  I'm
> >> learning with your help and thanks for taking your Sunday to help me
> 
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