[HistoricCemeterieslistserv] Administrative feeplan or procedure

[Historic Cemeteries]

Ernie--let's continue this conversation off of Historic Cemeteries.   My 
e-mail is whitehillranch at centurytel.net  Thanks.  Diane
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Historic Cemeteries" <historiccemeteries at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
To: <historiccemeteries at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [HistoricCemeterieslistserv] Administrative feeplan or 
procedure


> Diane,
>
> Thanks for taking the time. Of interest is what you said about cemeteries 
> in your county receiving money from county taxes. I know there is a 
> gentleman in the Portland area that has been trying to get legislature to 
> have counties impose a county tax and remit it to the cemeteries. How was 
> it done in your county
>
> I agree with your analysis that a cemetery needs rules. I believe they 
> should include whether a vault is required, administrative fee, how many 
> can be interred in a grave space , etc. then this list needs to be sent to 
> each funeral establishment with a written request that the administrative 
> fee be collected and sent to the cemetery. I realize they can refuse.
>
> What I was hoping to get was a list from other cemeteries of their rules, 
> add them to mine.  I'm working on a process to put in place for getting 
> payment from the funeral establishment. There is a turnover in our area so 
> I get the same questions
>
> Ernie
>
> Sent from Ernie's iPhone
>
>> On Mar 19, 2014, at 10:17 AM, Historic Cemeteries 
>> <historiccemeteries at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> wrote:
>>
>> Ernie, I do not think there is lack of interest..perhaps just wondering 
>> exactly how to respond in a written format.
>>
>> Several of the cemeteries in our County are county owned...we pay taxes 
>> to support the cemetery's.  The plots are sold, and at the time of 
>> burial...be that the plot(s) were purchased years and years ago or just 
>> before the burial, there is an additional fee for opening and closing the 
>> grave.  A portion of that fee is paid to the grave digger.  There are 
>> summer employees, plus a secretary and another employee that is part time 
>> year around.
>>
>> Each county and cemetery is different from another and you just have to 
>> make a list of what you want, what you do not want and include in each 
>> side the feasibility cost wise of each 'rule'.
>>
>> I believe each cemetery needs a written set of rules and regulations. 
>> What is included in forever care of the cemetery and who owns the land? 
>> Will the soil be watered or is it reasonable to even water for a green 
>> grass lawn? Some cemeteries are natural and totally beautiful, but need 
>> weed control--i.e.---be it cut or sprayed.  The soil is the key element 
>> here plus the availability of cost effective water and watering systems. 
>> Who takes care of a toppling stone?  Who repairs the fencing?  Gates?
>>
>> As Kuri previously stated, be very careful using the word 'perpetual' in 
>> the care of the cemetery.
>>
>> Diane
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Historic Cemeteries
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 8:10 AM
>> To: historiccemeteries at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
>> Subject: Re: [HistoricCemeterieslistserv] Administrative feeplan or 
>> procedure
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I'm somewhat surprised of the lack of responses to a request of 
>> information regarding administrative fees. I'm  very grateful of the two 
>> responses received giving worthy advice. Is there a lack of interest from 
>> those directly/indirectly involved with cemetery's?
>>
>> Take care,
>>
>> Ernie
>>
>> Sent from Ernie's iPhone
>>
>>> On Mar 17, 2014, at 7:15 AM, Historic Cemeteries 
>>> <historiccemeteries at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'll pipe in here. Br careful in using the term perpetual care. That is 
>>> a specific legal term and relates to perpetual care funds which have 
>>> very specific and cumbersome requirements. You might check in with the 
>>> Cemetery Association of Oregon, they are in the know about operating 
>>> cemeteries and are super helpful.
>>>
>>>
>>> Kuri
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: HistoricCemeteries 
>>> [mailto:historiccemeteries-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf 
>>> Of Historic Cemeteries
>>> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 2:19 AM
>>> To: historiccemeteries at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
>>> Subject: Re: [HistoricCemeterieslistserv] Administrative fee plan or 
>>> procedure
>>>
>>> Perpetual care is usually included in opening and closing cost. A 
>>> portion is set aside for upkeep and care of the cemetery.
>>>
>>> There are restrictions and rules on use of perpetual care funds. Each 
>>> state has regulations covering this.
>>>
>>> Texas requires mansoleum if perpetual care fee is charged.
>>>
>>> David Samuelsen
>>>
>>>> On 3/16/2014 7:34 PM, Historic Cemeteries wrote:
>>>> When does one pay for perpetual care?  What is it?  How is it
>>>> different from the open and closing cost and prices of each?  I'm
>>>> learning with your help and thanks for taking your Sunday to help me
>>
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