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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=795291918-28052010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Hi Everyone,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=795291918-28052010></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=795291918-28052010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Been following the discussion and felt I might as well
express my thoughts, since it was me who brought CLSP to
Oregon.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=795291918-28052010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=795291918-28052010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>We actually joined the Collaborative the year I was the CSD
chair and looking for ways to save the Oregon Statewide Summer Reading
Program.Debra's year was the first full year of implementation in
Oregon. I'm not sure how far we want to go back into the reasons we joined
CLSP but at the time we did, joining CLSP <STRONG><U>saved</U></STRONG> the
Oregon Statewide Summer Reading Program. Prior to being a member of CLSP
Oregon had been originally been doing our own statewide manual which required a
lot of energy, time, travel and work and wasn't always the best. Then,
during the time we were partnering with Metropolitan Group, we had great art and
materials which were much more expensive, and ended up with an enormous
debt which took two years+ to resolve. I don't want to go back to those
days. This would mean taking a giant step back in summer
reading.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=795291918-28052010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=795291918-28052010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I am extremely disappointed to hear that Highsmith
basically wants to have a monopoly on anything CSLP. I know that the
company will use the art again, at least a year later, for a more general
reading promotion. Are they afraid that all of us are going to dig out our
CD's from years past and incorporate the artwork once again? Are they
afraid they are going to miss a buck? Highsmith makes a lot of money from the
CSLP. A lot of money! One of the biggest reasons for joining CLSP is
have access to high quality artwork and a complete summer reading manual.
Libraries on a small budget/no budget were able to produce high quality
summer reading materials and programs. Some libraries do purchase a
lot of materials, others do not. That's OK. Does Highsmith
think they are not selling as much CLSP material because we are creating our
own? Are sales down this year? Of course, library budgets are down
this year as well. Is Highsmith reacting to the economy and taking it out
on CLSP? </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=795291918-28052010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=795291918-28052010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Has anyone talked with the Executive Board of CLSP to let
them know what kind of hardship the limitation of use of the art will be?
So many libraries across the nation are facing bigger and bigger finanacial cuts
and the CLSP is one thing that has been affordable, optional to use and helps
create support for libraries on a united front both statewide and nationwide.
Also, I don't know if Highsmith would enjoy having negative press about
something such as Summer Reading. I remember, when CLSP was small they had
a much stronger voice because Highsmith wanted their business. This
situation makes me feel as if Highsmith has taken over the CLSP program and they
now call the shots. Say this isn't so. I hope enough states are
speaking up to both CLSP and Highsmith this is not acceptable.
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=795291918-28052010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Dana</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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class=795291918-28052010></SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=795291918-28052010></SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=795291918-28052010>D</SPAN>ana Campbell, Youth Services
Librarian</FONT></FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Corvallis-Benton County Public Library</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN
lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial size=2>645 Monroe Ave.</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN
lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial size=2>Corvallis, OR 97330</FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial size=2>541-766-6784</FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial size=2>Fax:
541-766-6915</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial
size=2>dana.campbell@ci.corvallis.or.us</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT
face=Arial size=2>PNLA Oregon Representative 2008-2010</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN
lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial size=2>ALA SRRT Amelia Bloomer Cmmt.
2008-2012</FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> kids-lib-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:kids-lib-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us] <B>On Behalf Of </B>BOGART
Debra S<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 28, 2010 10:00 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'BJ Toewe';
'(kids-lib@listsmart.osl.state.or.us)'; '(oyan@listsmart.osl.state.or.us)';
Katie Anderson<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [kids-lib] summer reading
copyright?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Hi
all-<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I
agree with BJ; my memory, from serving as CSD chair the year that Oregon joined
the collaborative, is that originally CSLP did solely own the copyright to the
art and did not own it jointly with Highsmith. So I believe that has changed
over the years. I agree that many libraries, including ours, are or could be
easily priced out of the market with Highsmith’s materials. We don’t use reading
records, but if we did have to purchase the 7500+ that we’d need, it would put a
large dent in either our programming or the number of free books we could give
away. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Perhaps
the cost of using a well-known illustrator has sky-rocketed in the past five
years. But it is also true that this year and last year, we have liked only a
few of the individual clip art graphics and have disliked several of them and
chosen not to use them anyway. So many libraries or states might be happy with
lower cost art from lesser known artists? Just some more thoughts for our
representatives to take to the meeting, thank you-<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Deb<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Debra
Bogart<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Youth
Services<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Summer
Reading Co-Coordinator<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Eugene
Public Library<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
kids-lib-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:kids-lib-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us] <B>On Behalf Of </B>BJ
Toewe<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 27, 2010 3:03 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
'(kids-lib@listsmart.osl.state.or.us)'; '(oyan@listsmart.osl.state.or.us)';
Katie Anderson<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [kids-lib] summer reading
copyright?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Hi
Katie,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">I am supposed to be
out of the summer reading loop but can't contain my thoughts on this, in spite
of trying really hard.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">I would like to see
delegates to CSLP actively lobby for changes to this rule. There seems to
be less validity in participating in a cooperative that disallows use of
the summer reading program clip art for customized reading logs, final
certificates, etc. While I understand that Highsmith would like to be sole
source for all things reading club, their pricing doesn't make it possible for
many, many libraries to order their products. While I value things that
many libraries would never be able to afford - a large vinyl banner in full
color, a variety of t-shirts sporting the summer theme, full color bookmarks - I
question the wisdom of CSLP negotiating a contract that won't allow a small
library to print off reading logs or certificates on their photocopier using
that summer's clip art. One of the main reasons for joining this
cooperative was the ability to obtain high quality art work that would have
been unaffordable for Oregon to obtain on its own. However, the strength
of branding is negated when libraries are not allowed to use that artwork to
create their summer reading materials.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">I know from when I
was the CSLP rep that Highsmith enjoys a really wonderful return on the
investment it makes of time and money to produce these materials. I also
know that CSLP benefits with a percentage kickback from Highsmith that can be
used to reinvest in continuing this venture from year to year. I don't
think that either entity would find participation in future years unaffordable
if this rule was changed. Perhaps total income would go down but making
this program work for libraries with smaller reading club budgets should be an
important aspect as well. Finally, if this is untenable to Highsmith,
we all know of other vendors who might be interested in collaborating with CSLP,
even with the change in clip art rules. While I'm not advocating for
moving from Highsmith as our vendor, I do think that the rules for use of clip
art are in drastic need of change.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">If my assessment of
this situation doesn't accurately reflect the views of youth services librarians
around the state, please do weigh in on the subject. I certainly haven't
taken the time to make calls and survey librarians around the
state.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">My two (long-winded)
cents....<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">BJ<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">BJ
Toewe</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Library
Administrator</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Salem Public
Library<BR>PO Box 14810<BR>Salem, OR
97309<BR>503-588-6084<BR></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><A
href="mailto:bjtoewe@cityofsalem.net"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">bjtoewe@cityofsalem.net</SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><BR>>>>
Katie Anderson <katie.anderson@state.or.us> 5/26/2010 4:12 PM
>>><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: blue">Hello! I just received the
following question, and thought you all might like to know the
answer.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: blue"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Katie, maybe I am
misunderstanding but it seems that some of the Oregon libraries are
misunderstanding the copyright issue – basically to not compete with items
already sold by Highsmith/upstart? I think they are seeing it as all clipart
being copyrighted by highsmith and unable to be used by them when in fact they
can use the clipart for their everything that is not duplicating what highsmith
currently sales in their catalog? If I’m wrong on this, please correct me.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Thanks!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: blue">Yes, you are correct! Both
the clip-art in the manual and by the artists can be used for products that do
not duplicate what Highsmith currently offers. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: blue"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: blue">The clarification is around what is
considered a duplication of paper products. For example, many libraries
around the country have different reading goals/records, therefore the reading
records offered by Highsmith don’t work for them. In the past we thought
it was OK to use the clip-art to create our own reading record because Highsmith
didn’t offer a similar reading record. This year we learned that since
Highsmith offers <B><I><U>a</U></I></B> reading record we can’t use the clip-art
to create a different type of reading record. We can still use the art on
sign-up forms, events calendars, booklists, event promotions/signs/brochures,
and other materials not available to purchase from
Highsmith/Upstart.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: blue"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: blue">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: blue">katie<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: blue"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: blue"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">Katie Anderson, Library Development
Services<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">* Youth Services Consultant * Oregon Center for the Book
Coordinator *<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">Oregon State Library, 250 Winter St. NE, Salem, OR
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