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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi all-<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I agree with BJ; my memory, from serving as CSD chair the year
that Oregon joined the collaborative, is that originally CSLP did solely own
the copyright to the art and did not own it jointly with Highsmith. So I
believe that has changed over the years. I agree that many libraries, including
ours, are or could be easily priced out of the market with Highsmith’s
materials. We don’t use reading records, but if we did have to purchase the
7500+ that we’d need, it would put a large dent in either our programming or
the number of free books we could give away. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Perhaps the cost of using a well-known illustrator has
sky-rocketed in the past five years. But it is also true that this year and
last year, we have liked only a few of the individual clip art graphics and
have disliked several of them and chosen not to use them anyway. So many libraries
or states might be happy with lower cost art from lesser known artists? Just
some more thoughts for our representatives to take to the meeting, thank you-<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Deb<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Debra Bogart<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Youth Services<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Summer Reading Co-Coordinator<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Eugene Public Library<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
kids-lib-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:kids-lib-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us] <b>On Behalf Of </b>BJ
Toewe<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 27, 2010 3:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> '(kids-lib@listsmart.osl.state.or.us)';
'(oyan@listsmart.osl.state.or.us)'; Katie Anderson<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [kids-lib] summer reading copyright?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Hi
Katie,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I
am supposed to be out of the summer reading loop but can't contain my thoughts
on this, in spite of trying really hard.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I
would like to see delegates to CSLP actively lobby for changes to this
rule. There seems to be less validity in participating in a
cooperative that disallows use of the summer reading program clip art for
customized reading logs, final certificates, etc. While I understand that
Highsmith would like to be sole source for all things reading club, their
pricing doesn't make it possible for many, many libraries to order their
products. While I value things that many libraries would never be able to
afford - a large vinyl banner in full color, a variety of t-shirts sporting the
summer theme, full color bookmarks - I question the wisdom of CSLP negotiating
a contract that won't allow a small library to print off reading logs or
certificates on their photocopier using that summer's clip art. One of
the main reasons for joining this cooperative was the ability to
obtain high quality art work that would have been unaffordable for Oregon
to obtain on its own. However, the strength of branding is negated when
libraries are not allowed to use that artwork to create their summer reading
materials.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I
know from when I was the CSLP rep that Highsmith enjoys a really wonderful
return on the investment it makes of time and money to produce these
materials. I also know that CSLP benefits with a percentage kickback from
Highsmith that can be used to reinvest in continuing this venture from year to
year. I don't think that either entity would find participation in future
years unaffordable if this rule was changed. Perhaps total income would
go down but making this program work for libraries with smaller reading club
budgets should be an important aspect as well. Finally, if this is
untenable to Highsmith, we all know of other vendors who might be interested in
collaborating with CSLP, even with the change in clip art rules. While
I'm not advocating for moving from Highsmith as our vendor, I do think that the
rules for use of clip art are in drastic need of change.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>If
my assessment of this situation doesn't accurately reflect the views of youth
services librarians around the state, please do weigh in on the subject.
I certainly haven't taken the time to make calls and survey librarians around
the state.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>My
two (long-winded) cents....<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>BJ<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>BJ
Toewe</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Library
Administrator</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Salem
Public Library<br>
PO Box 14810<br>
Salem, OR 97309<br>
503-588-6084<br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><a
href="mailto:bjtoewe@cityofsalem.net"><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>bjtoewe@cityofsalem.net</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br>
>>> Katie Anderson <katie.anderson@state.or.us> 5/26/2010 4:12
PM >>><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:blue'>Hello! I just received the
following question, and thought you all might like to know the answer.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Katie,
maybe I am misunderstanding but it seems that some of the Oregon libraries are
misunderstanding the copyright issue – basically to not compete with items
already sold by Highsmith/upstart? I think they are seeing it as all clipart
being copyrighted by highsmith and unable to be used by them when in fact they
can use the clipart for their everything that is not duplicating what highsmith
currently sales in their catalog? If I’m wrong on this, please correct me. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:blue'>Yes, you are correct! Both
the clip-art in the manual and by the artists can be used for products that do
not duplicate what Highsmith currently offers. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:blue'>The clarification is around what is
considered a duplication of paper products. For example, many libraries
around the country have different reading goals/records, therefore the reading
records offered by Highsmith don’t work for them. In the past we thought
it was OK to use the clip-art to create our own reading record because Highsmith
didn’t offer a similar reading record. This year we learned that since
Highsmith offers <b><i><u>a</u></i></b> reading record we can’t use the
clip-art to create a different type of reading record. We can still use
the art on sign-up forms, events calendars, booklists, event
promotions/signs/brochures, and other materials not available to purchase from
Highsmith/Upstart.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:blue'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:blue'>katie<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
style='color:blue'>Katie Anderson, Library Development Services<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
style='color:blue'>* Youth Services Consultant * Oregon Center for the Book
Coordinator *<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
style='color:blue'>Oregon State Library, 250 Winter St. NE, Salem, OR 97301<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
style='color:blue'><a href="mailto:katie.anderson@state.or.us">katie.anderson@state.or.us</a>,
503-378-2528</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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