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<DIV><SPAN class=565464418-29062010><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Just
curious here - Bittorrent users aren't necessarily doing anything illegal,
so is this really a bandwidth issue? If so, how can libraries respond to
the kind of legal pressure that Wilsonville is facing?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial size=2>Caleb</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>
Tucker-Raymond</FONT></SPAN> </P>
<P><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial size=2>Oregon Statewide Reference Service
Coordinator</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial size=2>Multnomah
County Library</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial size=2>(503)
988-5438</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial
size=2>calebt@multcolib.org</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial
size=2>AIM/Y!: calebMCL</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial
size=2>www.oregonlibraries.net</FONT></SPAN> </P></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
libs-or-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:libs-or-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Buzzy
Nielsen<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 29, 2010 11:43 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
libs-or@listsmart.osl.state.or.us<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Libs-Or] Bittorrent
downloading in libraries--Any solutions?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Hi Greg,<BR><BR>I
asked our district's network admin about this, and he gave some useful
information. Like Multnomah, we have the boilerplate agreement to which wired
and wireless users alike must agree before proceeding (i.e. don't use our
computers for illegal stuff). On our wired computers, we've "hidden" access to
the bittorrent client, although it does launch if a patron opens a torrent
file via the browser.<BR><BR>Our main technique for controlling it, though, is
that we throttle incoming and outgoing connections from popular bittorrent and
other P2P ports, so they don't draw a lot of overall bandwidth. We use an open
source firewall program called pfSense ( <A
href="http://www.pfsense.com/">http://www.pfsense.com/</A>).<BR><BR>Caveat:
all of our public computers, most of our servers, and many of our staff
stations run some flavor of Linux, so your mileage may vary with these
solutions.<BR><BR>Cheers!<BR>Buzzy<BR> <BR>******************************<BR>Assistant
Library Director<BR>North Bend Public Library<BR>1800 Sherman Ave.<BR>North
Bend, OR 97459<BR>541-756-0400<BR><A
href="http://www.cooslibraries.org/">http://www.cooslibraries.org</A><BR><BR><BR>On
06/28/2010 04:19 PM, GIBBON Cindy wrote:
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<DIV><SPAN class=433171123-28062010><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Greg, we aren't blocking bit torrent downloading, but we might
consider it if we could figure out a good way to do it. Aside from
all else, it takes an awful lot of our wireless bandwidth and leaves
other users sometimes unable to do what they need to do. However,
our legal counsel did suggest we add this statement to our Acceptable User
of the Interent rules and our click-thru agreement that all patrons must
agree to at log-in. Our understanding is that from a legal
standpoint, we do not need to be concerned about
library/county liability in these situations. I think the
principle is similar to the warnings that we post a copy machines.
This statement comes out of a manual on copyright issues for libraries which
is sitting in my office (and I'm not) so I can't dredge up the title right
now. Anyway, here are the words we adapted:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<H3>Notice: Warning of Copyright Restrictions </H3>
<P>As a patron, your ability to post or link to copyrighted material is
governed by United States copyright law. The library reserves the right to
delete or disable any post or link that, in the judgment of library staff,
violates copyright law. In accordance with 17 USC S 512 (i)(1)(A), the
library may terminate a patron’s access to the system or network for
disrespect of the intellectual property rights of others, or for repeat
infringements of copyright. The library has adopted this policy and will
make all reasonable effort to enforce it in appropriate
circumstances.</P></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=433171123-28062010><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>If
your legal counsel wants to talk to ours, let me know.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=433171123-28062010><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Cindy</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=433171123-28062010><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Cindy Gibbon</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2>Senior Library Manager for </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A
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<B>On Behalf Of </B>Martin, Greg<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 28, 2010
3:04 PM<BR><B>To:</B> '<A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:libs-or@listsmart.osl.state.or.us">libs-or@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</A>'<BR><B>Subject:</B>
[Libs-Or] Bittorrent downloading in libraries--Any
solutions?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi
All,<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I’d like to throw out a couple
of questions about bittorrent downloading in Oregon’s libraries. Our own
library’s free and open wireless access sometimes plays host to nefarious
copyright scofflaws who download copyrighted files, leading to threatening
legal notices being received by our fair city, as the owner of the IP
range.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Question #1: Does anyone know
what, if any, legal penalties face the library (or the city) for this
activity? I’ve understood it to be something of a gray area in the recent
past. Has that changed?<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Question #2: Are there any
technological fixes that can be instituted to stop or sabotage our
moustache-twisting villains? We have our wireless router broadcasting only
when the library is open. Additionally we have our wireless upload rate
choked off, but I’ve been told that the servers can’t distinguish between
bittorrent downloading and ‘regular’ downloading, meaning that there is no
effective means to limit bittorrent downloads without negatively affecting
our system as a whole. True? <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Further, I’m given to
understand that although Multnomah County (public) has a click-through
agreement prohibiting illegal activity, bittorrent downloading still works
just fine there. I’d suppose if anyone would have a technical solution in
place, they would.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Any answers much appreciated.
Please copy the list, if possible.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Cheers,<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
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