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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=218195918-12012011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>I think the discussion is useful, as well. No tomatoes! Discusssing
the library profession is one thing within the confines of a conference or
private meeting. But, we also have to put this issue "out
there".</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=218195918-12012011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>I have three comments on what you have said:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=218195918-12012011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>1. From my <SPAN class=500345301-12012011><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial>experience many times non-professionals think that a "library"
situation is very simple when it is more complex. Unless someone with a
professional eye has evaluated the situation I would not put complete faith in
what the original poster assumes is needed.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=218195918-12012011><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial><SPAN
class=500345301-12012011>2. It's one thing to volunteer for a small non-profit
with no funds, quite another an organization such as this. Assuming their
professionally designed website is a reflection of the institution, I would
doubt that Providence must barter for what they are asking.
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<DIV><SPAN class=218195918-12012011><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial><SPAN
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<DIV><SPAN class=218195918-12012011><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial>3. Please see
this article from the Oregonian last May:</FONT></DIV>
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<H1><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>"The insidious rise in unpaid
internships can run afoul of federal guidelines"</FONT></H1>
<H1></SPAN><FONT size=2><A
href="http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/steve_duin/index.ssf/2010/03/the_insidious_rise_in_unpaid_i.html">http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/steve_duin/index.ssf/2010/03/the_insidious_rise_in_unpaid_i.html</A></FONT></H1></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=218195918-12012011><FONT
size=2>Donna</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT size=2>Donna L. Cohen, MLIS, MEd, Information
Management Consultant<BR>D. L. Cohen Information Services<BR>Portland,
Oregon<BR>503-737-1425<BR>dcohen@dcoheninfo.com<BR>www.dcoheninfo.com<BR>Managing
your organization's information and knowledge. Information is power...if you can
find it!</FONT> </DIV>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B>
libs-or-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:libs-or-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>KendraSchwindt<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 12, 2011 10:24
AM<BR><B>To:</B> libs-or@listsmart.osl.state.or.us<BR><B>Cc:</B>
satya.jaech@providence.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Libs-Or] Volunteer
Opportunity<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hmm, I actually pondered this for a while before
finally deciding to post here (deciding if indeed I might look good covered in
tomatoes):</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>On the one hand, I *wished* for something
like this when I was starting out. College provided only the disjointed big
picture. I desired the process, the detail. As
someone who loves organization/organizing/creating, I continue to
give and volunteer of myself in these areas as my time permits. Volunteering
makes me feel good, I meet new people, gain valuable knowledge, and generally
have a good time as there is less pressure (no office politics, more flexible
schedule, no evaluations, etc). Volunteering allows us to shift from
"it's all about me" to recognizing everything and everyone else out there that
is struggling too, including businesses.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Yet, I am painfully aware that the bottom line
drives everything in business....and a library *is* a business and as a
business we have to think of ways to continue to spend responsibly and within
our means. Bartering has been and always will be an accepted
mechanism to get what we want. </FONT><FONT size=2 face=Arial>In spite of
the economy today, there are still folks that love to give of their time and
talents and there will continue to be businesses that desire those
folks. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I think this is a prime example of
"the glass is half full/half empty" syndrome and I see </FONT><FONT
size=2 face=Arial>nothing wrong with their posting this
opportunity. I also see nothing wrong with a little spirited
discussion. </FONT></DIV>
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face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>...one moment while I take my position on the
stage....yes, okay, I'm ready for the lobbing of delicious, red ripe
fruit. After all, red is a power color and I make one darn tasty
salsa!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Kendra Schwindt</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>1st Career: College Information Manager
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>2nd Career: still figuring that out and
available for loan (contact <A
title="mailto:paulw@wintersassoc.com
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href="mailto:paulw@wintersassoc.com">paulw@wintersassoc.com</A> for more
information about "Executives on Loan")</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title="mailto:acordle@pcc.edu
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href="mailto:acordle@pcc.edu">Alan Cordle, PCC Library</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 12, 2011 9:35 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=archx@reed.edu href="mailto:archx@reed.edu">Xan
Arch</A> ; <A title=libs-or@listsmart.osl.state.or.us
href="mailto:libs-or@listsmart.osl.state.or.us)">(libs-or@listsmart.osl.state.or.us)</A>
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<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=satya.jaech@providence.org
href="mailto:satya.jaech@providence.org">satya.jaech@providence.org</A> ; <A
title=dcohen@dcoheninfo.com href="mailto:dcohen@dcoheninfo.com">D Cohen</A>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Libs-Or] Volunteer Opportunity</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Rather than preying on desperate library school students,
Providence should hire a librarian, experienced in starting a library from
scratch. The paid librarian could then recruit an intern (preferably
paid and/or offered credit) to assist.<BR><BR>Since when is it "professional"
for a librarian not to have a public opinion on the de-professionalization of
librarianship?<BR><BR>Also disappointed,<BR>Al<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 9:15 AM, _____<SPAN
dir=ltr>></SPAN> wrote:<BR><BR>
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class=gmail_quote>Dear Alan and Donna,<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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class=gmail_quote>. . . I'm very disappointed with your public
condemnation of this posting.<BR>Without background knowledge of the center
and its funding, besides what you find on the web, it would be far more
professional for you to let well enough alone. I know many of the library
students in the area are interested in additional work experience on their
resume and this could be a great opportunity for them.<BR><FONT
color=#888888><BR></FONT>
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<DIV class=h5><BR>On 1/12/11 8:52 AM, Alan Cordle, PCC Library wrote:<BR>
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class=gmail_quote>"The center houses an endowed chair in applied health
care ethics and two endowed lectureships: The Curtis R. Holzgang, M.D.,
Visiting Scholar and the Goldman-Berland Lectureship in Palliative Care
Education." Instead of dismissively asking for a "volunteer"
librarian, the Center should instead consider an Endowed Librarian --
especially since the expectation is to set up a
library.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR>
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