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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>well, I would call it a scroll, I would call a book
a book, and I would call an e-book an e-book. As for the definition sent out
earlier today - I think the content of the ebook has more volatility than the
others, maybe even more akin to an oral history. So really, instead of
inventing retronyms, maybe the ebook people could just come up with a completely
new word, that distinguishes this critter more completely from the other
things. Somehow, upon entering and remaining in the digital publishing
environment, creativity in naming things seems to have taken a hit.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>my two cents (and maybe more) - </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>gretta</FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=tintin@exchangenet.net href="mailto:tintin@exchangenet.net">Jim
Knutson</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=siegelg@pdx.edu
href="mailto:siegelg@pdx.edu">Gretta Siegel</A> ; <A title=bnielsen@cclsd.org
href="mailto:bnielsen@cclsd.org">Buzzy Nielsen</A> ; <A
title=libs-or@listsmart.osl.state.or.us
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 20, 2011 2:34
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Libs-Or] "pbook"</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>It'd have to be an <EM>sbook</EM>, wouldn't it?</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=siegelg@pdx.edu href="mailto:siegelg@pdx.edu">Gretta Siegel</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=bnielsen@cclsd.org
href="mailto:bnielsen@cclsd.org">Buzzy Nielsen</A> ; <A
title=libs-or@listsmart.osl.state.or.us
href="mailto:libs-or@listsmart.osl.state.or.us">libs-or@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 20, 2011 1:27
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Libs-Or] "pbook"</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>so what do you call a 'book" that is written on
a scroll? </FONT></DIV>
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<A title=bnielsen@cclsd.org href="mailto:bnielsen@cclsd.org">Buzzy
Nielsen</A> </DIV>
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title=libs-or@listsmart.osl.state.or.us
href="mailto:libs-or@listsmart.osl.state.or.us">libs-or@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 20, 2011
11:48 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Libs-Or] "pbook"</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Hi all,<BR><BR>I suppose I should weigh in on this, since
Paul and I are the culprits here in the degradation of language. We felt
it important to distinguish between p-books (which we pronounced
"pee-book," FWIW) and e-books for a few reasons:<BR>
<OL>
<LI>We view "book" to have a somewhat broader definition that doesn't
necessarily entail a particular format. Instead, we see it as meaning a
sustained instance of argument or storytelling that is recorded in fixed
written form, thus distinguishing it from terms like "article." Thus, it
defines it type of information delivery system broadly that is not
necessarily connected to a particular analog or digital form. Esoteric,
yes, but that was our operating principle.
<LI>Given #1, we saw our primary purpose as reviewing the cost of
preserving the ideas and concepts, not necessarily the particular
physical or electronic objects in question. Here is where the format
does matter, so we felt the need to distinguish.
<LI>We found ourselves getting confused between formats while discussing
and writing this piece, so it helped us keep things straight.
<LI>We wanted to emphasize that that p-books require physical space,
accounting for the vast majority of their storage cost.
<LI>It got your attention, didn't it?<BR></LI></OL>But seriously, thanks
to Hope for her kind words. I hope that some of you find this bit of
library economics esoterica interesting.<BR><BR>Cheers!<BR>Buzzy
Nielsen<BR><BR>******************************<BR>Assistant Library
Director<BR>North Bend Public Library<BR>1800 Sherman Ave.<BR>North Bend,
OR 97459<BR>541-756-0400<BR><A
href="http://www.cooslibraries.org/">http://www.cooslibraries.org</A><BR><BR><BR><BR>On
01/19/2011 12:22 PM, Laurisa Stubblefield wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid:4D374801.7070709@lclark.edu type="cite">"...print
books (hereafter referred to as pbooks when it is important to
distinguish them from electronic books, or ebooks)."<BR><BR>No need for
a new word! "A book" (analogue book) is a book is a book, as it
were. As in "would you like <I>a book</I> or an
<I>ebook</I>?" It's the format against which the new forms must be
distinguished (hence "ebook" and whatever comes next), not the other way
around.<BR><BR>Laurisa<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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