I work very closely with Tony Greiner Enterprises and live two blocks from the CEO. I must warn everyone that there is talk of a hostile takeover. ;)<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Shannon Van Kirk <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:SVanKirk@bluecc.edu">SVanKirk@bluecc.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">If ShannonVanKirk Enterprises grows as anticipated, we will be offering an IPO. At that point it, too, might be successful enough to be acquired by Tony Greiner Enterprises. I, of course, will be enjoying the proceeds of the IPO and subsequent sale on a Caribbean island (to be named later).<br>
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Hi, all. I very much agree with Jim Knutson that Tony Greiner's post is hilarious.<br>
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I do want to mention that I did get some useful feedback about my grousing about the offer from a publisher to sell me reprints of my own article. Several librarians on the lists I had posted it my grumbles to (I had posted it to the Medlib, the main discussion list of the Medical Library Association, the Scholarly Communications list of the ALA, and here). Several librarians pointed out to me that it is standard operating procedure to offer reprints for a fee to an author and they said that that is actually a courtesy on the part of a publisher to an author who might want elegant copies to give to relatives, colleagues, etc. and that furthermore this particular publisher does offer Open Access options. So I just want to pass that info along in the interest of accuracy and fairness.<br>
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Nevertheless, I did find it a bit galling to be marketed to with my own stuff, which I was not paid for in the first place and do want to stress that Open Access options resulted from years of work by advocates for Open Access and should not be taken for granted.<br>
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Now, I am off to look into creating H. Leman Incorporated. Maybe someday I could be acquired by Tony Greiner Enterprises.<br>
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Hope Leman, MLIS<br>
Research Information Technologist<br>
Center for Health Research and Quality<br>
Samaritan Health Services<br>
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Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 18:25:36 -0800<br>
From: Tony Greiner <<a href="mailto:tony_greiner@hotmail.com">tony_greiner@hotmail.com</a>><br>
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I submitted an article to a professional journal (Not LJ- they pay!) and got some sort of garbage response about how I couldn't retain copyright and would not have reprint privileges.<br>
In response, I told them that I would pull the article unless I could retain reprint on online privileges. At that point, they told me that they signed those contracts only with companies, not individuals.<br>
So I created (in my head) Tony Greiner Enterprises, and sold it the rights to the article for 1 cent. I sent the article in again under the new company name, and said it would retain copyright and online right. The article was printed, and I have reprinted the article and used it online.<br>
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Tony Greiner, President, CEO, and Proprietor of Tony Greiner Enterprises.<br>
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If this was a FB post, I would "like" it. Excellent.<br>
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I submitted an article to a professional journal (Not LJ - they pay!) and got some sort of garbage response about how I couldn't retain copyright and would not have reprint privileges.<br>
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In response, I told them that I would pull the article unless I could retain reprint on online privileges. At that point, they told me that they signed those contracts only with companies, not individuals.<br>
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So I created (in my head) Tony Greiner Enterprises, and sold it the rights to the article for 1 cent. I sent the article in, again, under the new company name, and said it would retain copyright and online rights. The article was printed, and I have reprinted the article and used it online.<br>
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Tony Greiner, President, CEO, and Proprietor of Tony Greiner Enterprises.<br>
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