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The rationale is that "reference is dead". <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>My first reaction was, "oh no! not again!"<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>But I'm interested to start a discussion here because what isn't mentioned in this post is that the author is discussing Emporia State University, which, through the Oregon cohorts of the School of Library and Information Management, is our local library school. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>I attended Emporia's most recent local graduation this past August, and I got to hear some great speakers contemplate the future of libraries. In addition, I recall that both our state librarian, MaryKay Dahlgreen, and the then-president of the Oregon Library Association, Abigail Elder, also talked about how grateful we all are here in Oregon to have a library school bringing new professionals into our community. I'm grateful also. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Do we expect new professionals to begin their careers with knowledge of reference services and sources?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>To fuel my own curiosity, I looked at the past three months of OLA Jobline announcements shared with this list. Of 55 descriptions for positions in Oregon, 11 mentioned reference service specifically - 20%. I didn't get into which of those required an MLS, but from looking at the titles, only one is for "reference librarian":<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Archivist for Collections Management, Eugene, OR<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Information Resources and Instructional Librarian, Coos Bay, OR<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Library Assistant/Branch Lead Worker, Beaverton, OR<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Manager, Architecture and Allied Arts Library, Eugene, OR<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Part-Time Librarian, Happy Valley, OR<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Reference Assistant, Albany, OR<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Reference Assistant, Tigard, OR<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Reference Librarian, Grand Ronde, OR<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Research/Catalog Librarian, Portland, OR<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Special Collections Assoc., Portland, OR<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Youth Services Associate, Prineville, OR<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>I'm interested in hearing your perspective!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Caleb Tucker-Raymond<br><br>Statewide Reference Service Coordinator<br>Multnomah County Library<br><a href="tel:%28503%29%20988-5438" target="_blank">(503) 988-5438</a><br><a href="mailto:calebt@multco.us" target="_blank">calebt@multco.us</a><br><a href="http://www.oregonlibraries.net/" target="_blank">www.oregonlibraries.net</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>