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</span></font></span><span style="background-color:white;" lang="en-US"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;" dir="ltr"><span style="background-color:white;" lang="en-US"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;" dir="ltr">We
had a patron here recently carrying (not using) an e-cig and I could definitely smell the residual aroma.
</span></font></span></span></font></span><span style="background-color:white;" lang="en-US"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;" dir="ltr"><span style="background-color:white;" lang="en-US"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;" dir="ltr"><span style="background-color:white;" lang="en-US"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;" dir="ltr"><span style="background-color:white;" lang="en-US"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;" dir="ltr">Whether
or not the by-product is "harmful" doesn't mean it isn't bothersome to others, and just because we agree that something smells pleasant doesn't mean it isn't harmful. As a kid my friends thought gasoline smelled good, while some people hate the smell of cilantro.<br>
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</span></font></span></span></font></span></span></font></span>Working at the circ desk I encounter many people wearing perfume/cologne, shampoos and 'essential oils', real tobacco residue, and even too much laundry detergent in their clothing. Sometimes it's
so strong it makes me nauseous. Many of these are chemical (laboratory produced) in origin and all can trigger allergic symptoms - runny nose, itchy eyes, headache, difficulty breathing - in people, who may have no idea what's causing them. (Check out toxicant-induced
loss of tolerance, or TILT, at <a href="http://discovermagazine.com/2013/nov/13-allergic-life" target="_blank">
http://discovermagazine.com/2013/nov/13-allergic-life</a>.) And consider the possible cumulative effects on children and small animals; new upholstery, 'air fresheners' and cheap perfumes build up in our body tissues just like tobacco (see
<a href="http://mckayjenkins.com/books/whats-gotten-into-us/" target="_blank">http://mckayjenkins.com/books/whats-gotten-into-us/</a>).<br>
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</span></font></span><span style="background-color:white;" lang="en-US"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;" dir="ltr">It's obviously not our place to police patrons' hygiene unless it's disruptive to other patrons, but I
find it absurd to treat pungent body odor and lavender body spray differently... they may smell different, but to some they stink equally. (I have been trapped in work situations with both, and while the BO didn't come home with me, the lavender stuck to
me for days.) <br>
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I guess I wish people were more aware of this issue in general when sharing public space, and our culture less obsessive about masking normal (reasonable) odors.<br>
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Sorry about the soapbox...<br>
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<div><font size="2">Rhonda Alderman<br>
Lead Circulation/ILL<br>
Badollet Library<br>
Clatsop Community College<br>
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This really has been a helpful discussion.
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I know that there is no proof of this but I had someone living with me who used e-cigarettes in my house, though he was not suppose to do this. The smell is why I discovered his actions, that and the fact that it was affecting my asthma. The kind he was using
was kind of like some odd and obnoxious incense (and I do like some incense). He didn't think I would smell it but I really did.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Seems a bit odd to include them since the by-product is not harmful to others.</span></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Had an interesting pro/con set of articles about “vaping” (e-cigs) in Sunday’s Eugene Register Guard. Sadly looks like you have to subscribe to view them online
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:Wingdings">L</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> It will be interesting to see the debate over whether they are or should be included in smoking bans.</span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, February 15, 2014 1:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:libs-or@listsmart.osl.state.or.us" target="_blank">libs-or@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">We have a portion of our Code of Conduct that addresses "Disturbing other library patrons or staff through extremely poor personal hygiene." I've never had to enforce
it at this library, </span>but I did at my last library. We directed the patron, who was living in her van with three cats, to a shelter that had washing machines that she could use.<br>
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We forbid smoking and using tobacco products on all of our grounds. It's also a part of our Code of Conduct. It doesn't specifically mention e-cigarettes, although I don't think it would be a far stretch to include e-cigarettes under "smoking". My understanding
is that they do release a vapor.<br>
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Here's a link to our full Code of Conduct:<br>
<a href="http://www.hoodriverlibrary.org/files/policies/Code%20of%20conduct.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.hoodriverlibrary.org/files/policies/Code%20of%20conduct.pdf</a><br>
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Cheers!<br>
Buzzy</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">On 02/14/2014 03:53 PM, Craig Carter wrote:</p>
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<pre style="margin-left:.5in">Hello everyone,</pre>
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<pre style="margin-left:.5in">We have been discussing two separate policy questions, and want to get some feedback from other libraries on how they handle each of them.</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:.5in">The first has to do with patrons with personal hygiene challenges. Do you have a policy that deals with this, and if so, what is your policy? Do you offer any resources to these patrons as far as someplace they could go to shower/bathe and/or get their clothes washed?</pre>
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<pre style="margin-left:.5in">The second has to do with e-cigarettes. Do you have a policy that addresses them? If so, what is it? What about chewing tobacco? Do you lump all tobacco-related issues into one blanket policy, or are they separate?</pre>
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<pre style="margin-left:.5in">Thanks in advance for your input!</pre>
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