<div dir="ltr">Thank you all so much! I will lower my standards a bit for our de minimus users. :)<div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Rachel</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 4:41 PM Prince, Catherine <<a href="mailto:catherine.prince@dncr.nc.gov">catherine.prince@dncr.nc.gov</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-4958820578113626332">
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<p class="MsoNormal">We have folks use their federally negotiated rate in most cases but do have a few libraries that use the de minimus. We don’t require any documentation besides a copy of the rate agreement and don’t ask for anything for the de minimus.
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VII to this part, paragraph D.1.b, may elect to charge a de minimis rate of 10% of modified total direct costs (MTDC) which may be used indefinitely<b><span style="background:yellow">. No documentation is required to justify the 10% de
minimis indirect cost rate.</span></b> As described in <a href="https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-2/section-200.403" target="_blank">
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<p class="MsoNormal">We only have Academic Libraries and School Districts asking for indirect costs. We require them to submit documentation of their Federally or State negotiated rates and call it good. We do not ask for documentation of actual expenditures.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> lstac <<a href="mailto:lstac-bounces@omls.oregon.gov" target="_blank">lstac-bounces@omls.oregon.gov</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Rachel Cook via lstac<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 2, 2023 3:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> LSTA Coordinators List <<a href="mailto:lstac@omls.oregon.gov" target="_blank">lstac@omls.oregon.gov</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [lstac] Indirect Cost Rate Documentation<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">When you have grantees claim indirect cost rates, what kind of documentation do you require for those costs? I have been requiring very clear documentation such as pay stubs or utility bills, but some of my grantees that always claim indirect
costs from other grants seem confused as to why I am asking for that. Am I asking for too much?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks!<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Rachel<br clear="all">
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