[OMS_MANAGERS] Events vs. Businesses

[Downtown Bend, OR]

Hey Steve,

The 'quad' idea sounds really interesting.  Do you happen to have a map of
an event set up in this fashion?

Thank you,
Mindy Aisling
Executive Director
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*Downtown Bend Business Association*
Talk or Text - 541-788-3628    www.downtownbend.org
916 NW Wall Street in Downtown Bend Oregon

*We are a nonprofit committed to increasing the vitality of Downtown Bend.*





On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 12:18 PM <steve at cateringbydeangelos.com> wrote:

> In Tigard, we originally used “quads” in the middle of the street to allow
> access to sidewalks & storefronts for our first street fairs-
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> The benefit was this allowed stores to activate more sidewalk space- the
> drawback became it was hard to activate some service style businesses (Dry
> Cleaners, Chiro, Insurance agent, etc… and some aren’t event open).
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> Also it seemed that some vendors  couldn’t absorb the L shape frontage
> concept and had poor displays
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> The parking space became the “fire lane” in the above model.
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> As our fair grew – we needed more booth space (now we attract about 200
> vendors and about 7000 guests)
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> We also allow stores to “buy” the space in front of their Store as an
> attractor to the inside. Not many take us up but some do. The booths in the
> parking spaces and fire lane in the middle seems to work best here now. We
> also allow for breaks in the street to gain access to sidewalks where we
> have active businesses to “invite” fair goers into the businesses and be
> good stewards to showcase retailers & restaurants who have fun stores to
> visit.
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> DeAngelo’s Catering & Events
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> 9037 SW Burnham Street
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> Tigard, Or 97223
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> 503-620-9020
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> http://exploredowntowntigard.com/
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> https://www.facebook.com/ExploreDowntownTigard
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> *From:* OMS_MANAGERS <oms_managers-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> *On
> Behalf Of *STUART Sheri * OPRD via OMS_MANAGERS
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 09, 2019 10:07 AM
> *To:* Oregon Main Street program managers <
> oms_managers at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> *Subject:* Re: [OMS_MANAGERS] Events vs. Businesses
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> One comment re: the permit process
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> In communities that have a permit process for special events, I have seen
> the main street program be one of the entities that have to sign off on the
> application. In some towns, the main street organization is the entity that
> manages the process as part of their service agreement with local
> government. There are a couple benefits to either of these roles, the main
> street organization is aware well in advance of what activities are
> happening downtown and are able to coordinate with businesses, and they can
> also serve as a conduit to share what works/doesn’t work with the
> organizations that are hosting the events in terms of the impact on
> downtown.
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> *From:* OMS_MANAGERS [
> mailto:oms_managers-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
> <oms_managers-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>] *On Behalf Of *W Darin
> Rutledge, Executive Director
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 09, 2019 9:57 AM
> *To:* Oregon Main Street program managers
> *Subject:* Re: [OMS_MANAGERS] Events vs. Businesses
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> Mindy – in response to the emergency access issue … yes, that would be a
> tough one depending on your street cross-section. We are fortunate that our
> Main Street has parking lanes on both sides and two wide lanes for traffic.
> When we set up, there is still plenty of access on either side of the line
> of booths, and Main Street could be accessed from any of the side streets
> to within a half block of an incident.
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> It brings up a question of permitting process, though. Here, the City
> approves the closure permit after consulting with their police department,
> street department, and any other City divisions with possible impact. It
> does not go through our local fire district for approval, although I know
> the local PD considers emergency access in the street closure plan.
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> Depending on who’s reviewing, it may be that they are making an assumption
> about emergency access. We’ve been successful with other regulatory issues
> like this by using other towns (like Bend) as an example – maybe that’s a
> way to convince the powers that be to at best, change their minds, and at
> least, allow for other parties to review and way in?
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> Thanks!
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> *From: *OMS_MANAGERS <oms_managers-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> on
> behalf of Elisa Joy Payne <ej at downtownhillsboro.org>
> *Reply-To: *Oregon Main Street program managers <
> oms_managers at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> *Date: *Tuesday, July 9, 2019 at 9:28 AM
> *To: *Oregon Main Street program managers <
> oms_managers at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> *Subject: *Re: [OMS_MANAGERS] Events vs. Businesses
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> Mindy,
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> This topic is hot in our Downtown too!  We have started by creating info
> sheets for businesses about each event or series of events (ie.  Farmers
> Market), including how businesses can best take advantage of the events.
> I've attached an example. It hasn't squelched all the negatively, but it
> helps us reach new businesses before the naysayers get to them.
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> With the support of our chamber, we are going to start a task force that
> includes event staff and their boards to rethink events Downtown.
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> Would you be able share the data collection material that you used? It
> sounds like you addressed a lot of the topics we want to ask.
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> Thanks for bringing this topic to the listserve!
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> On Mon, Jul 8, 2019, 7:25 PM Steve Poisson <mrstevepoisson at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> Hi Mindy-
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> When you say " I asked our City about changing the way the booths were
> placed to create a 'walk-way' between the brick and mortar stores and the
> booths, but I was told this was impossible because of the need to get
> emergency vehicle access."  I would think thee is a way to set this up to
> accomplish both goals- open storefronts and emergency access. We are
> looking at the same idea in Stayton, and even if the booths are placed a
> bit off-center to allow store access AND and acceptable emergency access
> lane it seems doable, though not yet proven by us.
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> Interesting discussion and very timely for our situation.
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> Steve Poisson
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> President, Revitalize Downtown Stayton
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> On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 4:52 PM Downtown Bend, OR <downtownbend at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> Hi Guys,
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> Thanks so much for all of your responses.
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> Rob, our roles is to advocate for the needs of our stakeholders (building
> and business owners within the EID), so we have no role in helping promote
> events run by private event companies and hosted in our downtown district.
> We gathered sales data from several businesses of various types over the
> past 5 years and it clearly shows that for retail businesses, event days
> are 30-85% down in sales.  For coffee shops (and some restaurants) this
> isn't the case, but eating establishments only make up 30% of our Downtown
> Businesses, so even if events are successful for all of them, it still is
> the minority of stakeholders gaining a positive benefit from Class 3 events
> in Downtown.  We made three classifications of events (Class 1 - events w/o
> street closures, Class 2 - events with street closure and no booths
> (parades, races) and Class 3 - events with street closures and booths).
> Class 3 events were the only ones that showed a negative impact, based on
> the data we gathered.  Class 1 & 2 events showed a positive impact on
> business sales regardless of the type of business.
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> Westly and Darrin, I asked our City about changing the way the booths were
> placed to create a 'walk-way' between the brick and mortar stores and the
> booths, but I was told this was impossible because of the need to get
> emergency vehicle access.   How did you guys get around this?
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> Also, do any of your organization receive impact fees when events take
> place in your district?
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> Thank you, everyone, for your help in broadening my perspective!
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> Mindy Aisling
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> Executive Director
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> *Downtown Bend Business Association*
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> Talk or Text - 541-788-3628    www.downtownbend.org
> 916 NW Wall Street in Downtown Bend Oregon
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> *We are a nonprofit committed to increasing *
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> On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 3:53 PM Rob Dennis <bcddirector at gmail.com> wrote:
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> It’s my understanding that one of the roles of your promotional committee
> is to help business find a way to make money off of those events like that.
> No two communities are the same so I don’t know how to do that in Bend, but
> I bet there’s a way for your downtown businesses to organize a retail event
> specific to what’s closing the street down.
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> On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 3:08 PM STUART Sheri * OPRD via OMS_MANAGERS <
> oms_managers at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> wrote:
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> No data but attached is info on how businesses can benefit from special
> events. What I have found is that there is a sweet spot – too many events
> can be a challenge for the business community but some can be a big boost
> in terms of exposure and marketing opportunities.
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> *From:* OMS_MANAGERS [mailto:
> oms_managers-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] *On Behalf Of *Downtown
> Bend, OR
> *Sent:* Monday, July 08, 2019 2:57 PM
> *To:* Oregon Main Street program managers
> *Subject:* [OMS_MANAGERS] Events vs. Businesses
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> Greetings,
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> We collected data from our Downtown businesses that showed that 65% of
> businesses lose significant revenue on days that the streets of our
> Downtown are closed and booths line the streets for festivals/events.
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> Our organization has been advocating to City Council for code changes in
> regards to events in Downtown.
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> Local event organizers are pushing back, saying that other businesses in
> other towns benefit financially from events closing down their streets, and
> therefore it is the fault of our business owners for not "trying hard
> enough" to benefit from the traffic that events bring to Downtown.
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> Here is my question to you:  *Do your Downtown businesses benefit
> financially from events that close the street and place booths in front of
> their businesses?*
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> Thank you so much for your help!
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> Mindy Aisling
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> Executive Director
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> *Downtown Bend Business Association*
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> Talk or Text - 541-788-3628    www.downtownbend.org
> 916 NW Wall Street
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> in Downtown Bend Oregon
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> *We are a nonprofit committed to increasing *
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> *the vitality of Downtown Bend.*
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> Rob Dennis
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> Baker City Downtown Director
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> 1655 First Street Suite 203
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> Baker City, OR 97814
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> Office: 541-523-6541 Ext. 106
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> Cell:541-519-2379
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