[or-roots] Oregon Trail, or not...

[Heather and Pat]

Oh, I bet it was a stock trail, cause that area was close to one of the
major grazing areas up between Toketee and Lemolo.  I bet that could be it.
Should have thought of that with all the cattle People up there like Jesse
Wright that moved stock up and down the north umpqua. Though this is a
little past where Jesse was.  Neat lady, by the way.  And if none of you
have read her book (I think it is How High the Bounty, but I can't remember
for sure) you really should find a copy.  It is a good depiction of early
turn of the century living.  Man, its weird I move away from that forest
service thing and Look at all these people that worked or know of the Umpqua
Forest District!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert L. Casebeer" <casebeer at jeffnet.org>
To: <or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us>
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Oregon Trail, or not...


> Leslie, I concur exactly, however there is one other possible kind of
blaze
> in that area--
> the markings for stock driveways.  The USFS marked the routes that they
> wanted to cattle and sheep being driven up from the Umpqua Valley to
> follow...and although there eventually were signs erected, "center stock
> driveway," and I suppose "edge stock driveway" although I have only seen
the
> center ones, in fact I have one, blazes might have been used to clarify
> where the stock were to be contained as they moved from
> the valley to the high prairies and on to the Klamath basin.  Bob
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leslie Chapman <khanjehgil at presys.com>
> To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us <or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us>
> Date: Monday, May 31, 2004 8:00 PM
> Subject: RE: [or-roots] Oregon Trail, or not...
>
>
> >Bob;
> >
> >Glad you brought that up, in my earlier reply I didn't think to mention
> that
> >there are reasons to find blazes on trees besides trails and immigrant
> >roads.
> >
> >Unfortunately this was a while back so she is unclear exactly of the
nature
> >of the blazes or why the anthropologist thought they were a historical
> >trail. I would point out that if you see a blaze line in the forest and
it
> >goes in a straight line without regard to terrain, it is a survey line,
not
> >a set of trail blazes. If you have a number of line marking blazes it
will
> >become obvious as you go along the line single blazed trees will face the
> >line, a tree falling on the line will have a blaze on both sides of the
> tree
> >where the line runs through it. Fore example if you find a 4 foot dia
tree
> >and the blazes as you imagine a line of sight through the two blazes is
one
> >foot from the left edge of the tree, that is where the line is. Typically
> >though the blazes will be centered on the tree if the line goes through
it,
> >because when you are blazing line you do not have a specific enough fix
on
> >the actual line to be that picky.
> >
> >Les C
> >
> >----Original Message-----
> >From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us
> >[mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Robert L.
> >Casebeer
> >Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 7:42 PM
> >To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us; shade at nu-world.com
> >Subject: Re: [or-roots] Oregon Trail, or not...
> >
> >
> >Heather, neither the Oregon Trail or the Applegate Trail came anywhere
> close
> >to Diamond Lake. The closest route emigrants used, and very few of them,
> was
> >over the Willamette Pass.  There were folk who came up the North Umpqua
in
> >the 1860s trying to see if they could get a wagon road up the river to
the
> >California Trail that is now Highway 97...but to no avail.
> >    Any blazes in that area that were not on an old abandoned trail, were
> >probably from a way trail which only sported blazes.  My father was the
> >district guard of the North Umpqua Ranger District in the 1930s and built
> >the USFS warehouse in the 1950s, so I am fairly familiar with USFS
practice
> >at about the same time those blazes would have been created.  Bob
Casebeer
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Heather and Pat <shade at nu-world.com>
> >To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us <or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us>
> >Date: Saturday, May 29, 2004 7:29 AM
> >Subject: [or-roots] Oregon Trail, or not...
> >
> >
> >Hello,
> >I've been lurking, but enjoy everyone genealogy tales.. You learn a lot
> >about the state history by listening... Anyway since we're mentioning the
> >trail and ruts, (by the way I liked that picture from Baker City... Great
> >learning center there...) I am reminded when I was working on the Diamond
> >Lake Ranger District (it's near Crater lake) of working on a thinning
> >project and finding trail blazes.  Our anthropologist said she would look
> >into what they may have been but I never heard if they were from the
Oregon
> >Trail or something different.  (To reassure everyone those trees were not
> >taken and were protected with a buffer zone...)
> >  If anyone knows the area, HWY 138 east runs through that area, do you
> know
> >if that was a younger trail then the rush of the 1830 and 40s or about
that
> >time frame?  I lived up there for 22 years and I don't ever remember
> hearing
> >about that sort of stuff.
> >
> >Heather
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