[or-roots] What do KP.B and PO mean?

[Eugene Barnes]

In my wife's research she has a census with the notation the a volunteer had taken over
since he found the census taker had fallen drunk into a ditch.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Leslie Chapman 
    To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us 
    Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 8:38 AM
    Subject: RE: [or-roots] What do KP.B and PO mean?


    Bob
    I assume this is a census listing and you are looking at original images?

    Best guess is you're out of luck, the census taker was lazy or for whatever
    reason the KB.B and PO did not want their full names used or they were so
    accustomed to being just referred to by the letters that they gave the
    census taker only that info. It is possible that these individuals had
    accents that made the census taker not understand some unusual surname:
    Keibeebe for example and maybe PO was from southern roots and was just
    calling himself "poor"

    This sounds like you were dealing with someone in a boarding house or
    similarl situation? If you have the whole image sometimes the name of the
    boarding house or institution is written down the side, I have a great aunt
    who was in a school for girls as teacher in Wisconsin and the name of the
    school includes the name of the owner and is written down the side of the
    page under house numbers column, she happens to have her name spelled out as
    head of household too, but this particular census taker was meticulous, a
    lazier one might have figured it was spelled out in the margin and taken a
    shortcut.

    Quite frankly unless you can find other documents listing these folks in
    proximity; old news stories, payrolls etc the likelyhood of ever knowing who
    they were sounds slim to me. If this is a boarding house or bunkhouse the
    chances of these same folks being there ten years either way would most
    likely be slim or none and your only hope is finding some other type of
    document, or else stumble on a descendant of their who knows they were there
    at that time and can fill in the blanks.

    For example my great grand is in the 1860 Jackson county census as MM
    Melvin, now if Michael Martin Melvin's descendant were to be grasping at
    straws in search of his ancestor and conclude, "gee maybe this is gramps"
    and come to the list for confirmation because the age was off by two years
    or the place of birth didn't match I would feel pretty comfortable in
    disappointing him; I know Uncle 'Rell was born in Slate Creek in 1862
    (family bible) the age and so forth data in census is a good match and great
    gram is with her folks without Gramps in 1860 census.

    So it all comes back to how important this is to you? If you really need to
    know; ie you suspect they also may be relatives, or have some other
    relevancy such as place of origin or whatever, you are going to have to go
    to other historical docs for that place. Newspaper, payroll and such. You
    don't say when and where this is, if it is a big 20th century town you
    probably can find them if it is important enough, if they were in say
    Antelope, Oregon in 1880 or earlier, lots of luck, the whole town burned in
    1898 and I would expect that the only hope of finding anything before there
    would be payroll type info that was sent offsite on a regular basis or
    someone that happened to have hard copy info of papers (here I am assuming a
    local paper, the county seat might have a paper still in existence) saved
    because they were packrats and subsequently said info was preserved.

    if you really feel a need for that info drop me a note off list as to what
    and where of what you have and I will take a stab at it for you, but like I
    say it doesn't sound like a high probability.

    Les Chapman
    khanjehgil at presys.com

    -----Original Message-----
    From:dgoodma02 at comcast.net
    Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 11:39 AM

    While researching my ggf Thomas Goodman I came across a list of persons, one
    of which was my ggf. The first name on the List was KB.B followed by self,
    the next name was PO followed by other.  Any one have an Idea what the KP.B
    and PO mean?  The list was of 21 males, from a number of varius states from
    NY to Michigan.  Any one have any Idea?

    --
    Bob Goodman
    USAF Retired
    University Place, Washington
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