[or-roots] WRONG; Trail, or not... Att Nanci Axleton

Leslie Chapman khanjehgil at presys.com
Sat May 29 10:32:47 PDT 2004


As you are giggling over a man who makes his living in the surveying game
making such a glaring error, I just want to remind you my primary income is
from doing construction staking on structures and highways that you folks
travel over and carry on business in every day. Be very very nervous!!! ;-}

I had located (I thought) Nanci's grampa's land claim just north of the
North Umpqua river and sent her a map there of. I was asking my son to
locate an aerial photo of the area so I could send that to her, when we got
to where I THOUGHT it was, his topog map and mine did't jibe at all! I
hadn't saved the exact specifics of Bradford's patent anywhere so floundered
around for about an hour making no sense of it and finally gave up and went
to USGLO site and got the patent again, lo and behold we couldn't make it
make sense because I was two township and probably a range off.

Not only must I strike my comments about Nanci's folk being on the trail
from the 1895 atlas, I also have to retract my smart aleck remark about her
ancestors being hill folk since Grandpa Hardenbrook patented some PRIME
bottom land just nort of Oakland.

Nanci; shortly I will be sending you a revised map of the homestead, correct
this time I hope, and an aerial photo of same. they will be in the 300 to
400 KB size so will be slow downloaders. I can only hope her family hasn't
already gone on an expedition to the location I previously gave her??

Well I guess thats a risk you take when you get free advice.

Sorry about this folks.

Les C

-----Original Message-----
From:  Leslie Chapman
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 9:00 AM

Heather;

Now to your question Heather, that would have been far too far south for the
Oregon trail. Can you remember and give me a little more specifics on the
location of the blaze marks you mention. I believe there were a number of
trails in that area in the 19th century and early 20th. I might be able to
pin down your specific trail if I can find the original survey map of that
area from the surveyors office. I also am going to contact you off list as
we most likely have mutual acquiantances.

 Looking at the 1895 atlas map of Douglas County shows a trail or wagon road
running roughly parallel to the Norh Umpqua River and a few miles north of
it, understand this map is very crude, it shows the river running more or
less in a straight line east west from about Wilbur to north of Mt.
Thielson.

http://www.livgenmi.com/1895/OR/County/douglas.htm

This location makes sense of the location of Nanci Axleton's ancestor and
his DLC; as near as I can tell his claim would have been right on the above
mentioned trail.

Les Chapman khanjehgil at presys.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Heather and Pat
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 7:30 AM

Hello,
I've been lurking, but enjoy everyone genealogy tales.. You learn a lot
about the state history by listening... Anyway since we're mentioning the
trail and ruts, (by the way I liked that picture from Baker City... Great
learning center there...) I am reminded when I was working on the Diamond
Lake Ranger District (it's near Crater lake) of working on a thinning
project and finding trail blazes.  Our anthropologist said she would look
into what they may have been but I never heard if they were from the Oregon
Trail or something different.  (To reassure everyone those trees were not
taken and were protected with a buffer zone...)
  If anyone knows the area, HWY 138 east runs through that area, do you know
if that was a younger trail then the rush of the 1830 and 40s or about that
time frame?  I lived up there for 22 years and I don't ever remember hearing
about that sort of stuff.

Heather

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