[or-roots] Train to Oregon

[Kith-n-Kin]

Betty,

What is your source for this information?

According to "The Southern Pacific in Oregon" by Ed Austin and Tom Dill, the line was through in 1887.
"Railroading in Southern Oregon and the founding of Medford", by Bert and Margie Webber, notes that
Ashland's "Golden Spike" was driven on December 17, 1887, ". . .connecting the Oregon and California
tracks from the north with those of the California and Oregon, now called the Southern Pacific from the
south. This Action Opened the Pacific Northwest to California and the Southwest; completing a circle of
railroads around the United States." This from the marker erected in 1974 in the Ashland rail yard.

Further, in list of "Towns in Western and Southern Oregon on the Southern Pacific co. (Lines in Oregon.)
1906, are listed:

Ashland, Grant's Pass, Jacksonville, Medford, Roseburg.

There is a picture of the station at Phoenix, Oregon, ca 1920.

And, then, "Jacksonville had been left without a railroad when surveyors decided to run straight up Bear
Creek Valley -- no side trips by way of Jacksonville -- to Ashland. When the people of Jacksonville
finally realized they had been left five miles off the tracks, promoters went to work to get money to
build their own short line into Medford. . .   In January 1890, the Medford and Jacksonville Railroad
Company was incorporated. . . "

Now, maybe in 1925, there was some problem with the railroad, but if so, surprised I didn't hear about it.
Not that *I* was around, you understand <G>, but a murder and the KKK surely would have had *some*
story-telling value.

Uh, I guess I should mention that my grandfather ran the jail, and my grandmother was the chief cook and
bottle washer for same, when the D'Autremont brothers spent some quality time there in Jacksonville. Now,
since that train robbery/murder occurred on the line into Medford (up in the Siskiyous), my guess is that
the line was operating in 1923. 

Pat (in Tucson)

Scio vestri atavi est nosce te ipsum 
(to know your ancestors is to become acquainted with yourself)
 

-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of
Betty Moreland
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 17:57
To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Train to Oregon


i RESEARCHED THE INFORMATION ON A MURDER IN MEDFORD.. IN 1925 THEY DID NOT HAVE A RAILROAD SOUTH FROM
OREGON TO CALIFORNIA. THE KKK AND RAILROAD AND FOREST SERVICE WERE ALL FIGHTING OVER IT.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Aileen Itzen" <hai at callatg.com>
To: <or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us>
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Train to Oregon


> My great grandparents came west 1873 via train from Minnesota to SF,
> from there by boat to Astoria, another boat up the Columbia River to 
> Portland and Willamette River to Oregon City, OR.  Can only assume 
> that at that
time
> there was no train available directly to Oregon.  Aileen
>
>
> At 10:39 AM 10/02/2004, you wrote:
> >The SP route was from Omaha.  Had to get train from
> >east to connect circa 1880.  By 1882 SF may have had
> >route open through LA and up to San Fran. Both ended
> >there.  Had to go by Ship north from San Fran.  Old
> >Station in LA now long gone.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <mailto:LSchiendel at aol.com>LSchiendel at aol.com
> >To:
<mailto:or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us>or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us
> >Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 6:59 PM
> >Subject: [or-roots] Train to Oregon
> >
> >My grandparents came to Washington in 1902.   I know they were living in
> >the Elochoman Valley, Wahkiakum County Washington in 1902 & 3.   I have a
> >picture of my grandfather on a logging train in 1904.  Also one of
> >my Grandmother, my father and 2 of his siblings at the Sunny Grove 
> >School, Elochoman No. 12 about 1904. My father used to tell about 
> >coming on the train.  I have wondered just
> >what their route might have been.   Have been told the train did come
down
> >the Oregon side of the Columbia River.
> >Anybody know any details?
> >Lillian
>
>
>
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