[or-roots] Marriage Certificate Vs Return of Marriage
C Thompson
ashalen at hotmail.com
Thu Sep 23 23:21:56 PDT 2004
She did leave her husband Asa M White as well for another man. I've looked
for a Divorce certificate but didn't find one. She moved to Washington for a
little while and hand another Daughter Bernice G. in the 1930 Census she was
in Coos County, North Bend Oregon. They list her has being Married to
William H Palmer. But from what a geneological source for the Asa White's
side of the family says they never did divorce. I have done searches on both
last names. The only reason I came across Lawalta in the 1910 Census is they
had a Mary Lauretta Knowles listed as age 6. I looked at the image and it
isn't Mary Lauretta, but Mary Lawalta Step-Daughter to Henry A Whaite in
Kennewick Washington. So sometime inbetween 1910 and 1920 She started using
her middle name. I also traced her mother and step-father down to
California in 1930 where her step-father passed later on. But I still can
not find a trace of Lawalta aka Mary. I have found alot of Mary White's very
common name, but it's hard to narrow it down. I just continue searching
hoping I run into something I missed.
Some where there was a rumor that Lawalta might have had Mental problems
since she did leave her 3 year old daughter and run off with another man.
Does anyone know where I might be able to get indexes of asylums? It is a
possibility to look into.
Think I'll upload my gedcom file, hopefully that'll help
I have to thank everyone again for all the help and ideas you are giving me.
It is very generous and a blessing when you've been banging your head
against the walls trying to figure things out! =)
Thanks
Carisa
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>If she left her daughter did she also leave her husband? Maybe she
>remarried and had a different last name on a death certificate or SSDI.
>Where was she in 1930? Was she still with her husband?
>
>Sue
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "C Thompson" <ashalen at hotmail.com>
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>Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 10:07 PM
>Subject: Re: [or-roots] Marriage Certificate Vs Return of Marriage
>
>
> > Is there a calculator or something out there to estimate the months in
>which
> > they might have been born. The event dates I have are:
> >
> > 1910 Census Enumerated May 5th 1910 She was 6
> > Marriage On January 14 1919 she was 16
> > 1920 Census Enumerated on January 5th 1920 she was 16
> > First Birth Viola Marva White February 16 1920 She was 17
> > 1930 Census Enumerated on April 16th 1930 she was 26
> >
> > It almost looks like she had her birth moth between Jan 1st and Feb
>16th.
> > But if that were the case wouldn't she be 27 April 1930?
> >
> >
> > With the SSI that someone mentioned. I've searched that several times
>and
> > have come up with nothing. The problem also is that I'm afraid that she
> > never got a SS # since she was a home maker.
> >
> > With the information about certificate 0648 in the Oregon Archives, I
>have
> > that on and it's the return of Marriage form.
> >
> > Oh Sigh.. Keeps me up at night pondering what happened to her. Why she
>left
> > her daughter, Where did she go after 1930, where did she die when did
>she
> > die how did she. I guess that is the side effects of doing geneology!
>=)
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Carisa
> >
> >
> >
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> > > Database: Oregon Marriages, 1906-20
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> > >----
> > >
> > >
> > > Name County Marriage Date
> > >
> > > Lawalta M Knowles Hood River 14 Jan 1919
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Knowles, Lawalta M & White, Asa Marion 12-31-1919 Marriage Hood
> > >River
> > >Genealogical 0648
> > >Oregon Historical Index Copies available from the Oregon Archives
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >A couple of people have posted information on her in Ancestry.com
> > >Contact: Richard Dunn
> > >Contact: Scott Jarvie scottj at byu.edu
> > >
> > >
> > >1920 Census Enumerated 5th day of January 1920 Enumeration District
>213
> > >Sheet No. 2A
> > >Oregon
> > >Wasco County
> > >Maupin Precinct
> > >Asa M White Head /Owned Home/ Free of mortgage/ Male/ White/ Age last
> > >birthday 35/ Married/ Yes Read & Write/ Birthplace Wisconsin/ Father &
> > >Mother born United States/ Speaks English/ Laborer/ Industry: Steam
> > >Railroad
> > >/ Worker
> > >
> > >Lawalta M White Wife /
> > >Female/ White/ Age last birthday 16/ Married/ Attended School anytime
>since
> > >9/1/1919 Yes / Yes Read & Write/ Birthplace Iowa/ Father's birthplace
>Iowa/
> > >Mother's birthplace Iowa/ Speaks English/ Trade None
> > >
> > >Sue
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "C Thompson" <ashalen at hotmail.com>
> > >To: <or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us>
> > >Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 5:33 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [or-roots] Marriage Certificate Vs Return of Marriage
> > >
> > >
> > > > Thank you for all your help!
> > > >
> > > > I've hit a major brick wall in my research. As I have no idea what
> > >happened
> > > > to my great-grandmother. She left my Grandmother when she was 3
>years
> > >old.
> > > > We found the birth certificate for my Grandmother, and so we have
>the
> > >name
> > > > of Lawalta Mary Knowles from Iowa, and we found the return of
>marriage
> > >form
> > > > being married in Hood River in 1917. Even with both those records it
> > >does
> > > > not hold Lawalta's exact Date of Birth. We can only estimate that
>her
> > > > birthdate is in the year 1903. I've even checked the Census and
>those
> > >don't
> > > > have exact birth dates either. No birth records found in any
>searches.
>I
> > > > just don't know where to go next. I figured I'd try looking deeper
>into
> > >her
> > > > marriage which we have the exact date of and location to see if they
> > > > recorded her birthdate anywhere.
> > > >
> > > > If anyone has any other suggestions I'd love the help!
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again for the responces!
> > > >
> > > > Carisa
> > >
> > >
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