Thank you Ed and Carylon; Now if the folks who were looking for patents are still around to get the notice, guess I will go fishing for more of my family stuff. Les C Hey Everyone, the BLM records are back online!! http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/PatentSearch/Default.asp? Edward G Viuhkola Carylon Osborn Viuhkola