[or-roots] band width and other sad things

[Leslie Chapman]

I am happy to say that we have all been reasonable about this whole thing,
and am glad we have moved on, it is interesting to note that among the
things Babe is saddened by I wonder if there was some mistreatment of
Hawaians in the past history, I know the Owyhee river was named for some and
have some in my niece's family tree, yet seem to have a glimmer of
recollections that they weren't much better treated by us "lilly white
honkey" types than the native Americans and other people of color, witness
the burning out, lynching and other mistreatment of Chinese, and we don't
even want to talk about Oregon's historic attitude toward African
American's.

I want to say that twyla spelled it out quite correctly, and yes we waste a
lot more genealogy hard drive space on cutesy photos and other HTML stuff
(which is why you will find a lot of gibberish if you access the archives,
because it is all stored as plain text) but if everybody had chimed in with
three opinions and lots of name calling as has happened some times in the
past we all would have gotten very tired of it.

These books sound fascinating, I am surprised my Dad didn't have them, or
maybe he did and I just never noticed.

He and I spent a lot of my childhood wandering the back roads of eastern
Oregon looking for obscure historic things he had read about the I wish I
could now remember what were and where they were, kind of like the old wagon
wreckage I mentioned in here once before.

Les C

-----Original Message-----
From:Babe Fain
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 5:49 AM
Subject: [or-roots] mega info


    Hi

    A couple years ago, someone on another list, suggested anyone interested
in Oregon history to read "Thunder Over the Ochoco" by Gale Ontko.  There
are five volume, Volume 1 - The Gathering Storm, Volume II - Distant
Thunder, Volume III - Lightning Strikes, Volume IV - Rain of Tears, and
Volume V - And the Juniper Trees Bore Fruit.  These books helped me to
understand the early history of Oregon and not the history I was taught in
school.

    As I read those book, I was saddened by the fact that people of all
races,
out of greed or self preservation got rid of anything or any person in their
way.  It was "man against man", no matter the color of the skin.

    I suggest you read these book.  I am sure you can find them at your
library.  I happen to buy them at my local book store.
    Babe Fain

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