[or-roots] Americus Savage

[Albert Belanger]

Bonjour,

There was an AMERICUS SAVAGE from Maine on the Oregon Trail in 1851 

Regards,
Albert

Albert Edward Belanger
128 Middle Road
Brentwood, NH 03833

Researching the 1851 Oregon Trail Migration


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From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Leslie
Chapman
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 12:40 AM
To: Oregon List
Subject: [or-roots] David Presley

Listers, an email came through last night asking about joining our
little
group, I emailed them direct to point out that as far as I could tell
they
had joined and they sent me back direct the purpose of their search so I
have put the following together along with my little "up on the soap box
blurb" about providing the list with as much info as possible when
posting a
query which we all tend to forget from time to time.

Les C



Subject: Re: joining what??


thanks.jerry's great grandfather david presley donated the land for the
state fairgrounds and we have been trying to find some info on him and
loose
and any flights of fancy are fine lol.barb presley

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Presley, David  Tax roll Marion Provisonal and Territoria 12277A
Presley, David  Tax roll Marion Provisonal and Territoria 12277B
Presley, David  Tax roll Marion Provisonal and Territoria 12277C
Presley, David  Tax roll Marion Provisonal and Territoria 12277D
Presley, David  Tax roll Marion Provisonal and Territoria 12277E
Presley, David  Tax roll Marion Provisonal and Territoria 12277F
Presley, David  Tax roll Marion Provisonal and Territoria 12277G

I figure this is your guy since the State Fairgrounds are in Marion Co
and
obviously this guy had land. In Jackson county we find a David of the
divorcing kind;

Presley, David A vs Presley, Minnie E 01-19-1900 Divorce Jackson County
P03
#07
Presley, David A vs Presley, Jennie May 06-27-1908 Divorce Jackson
County
P03 #08

From;	http://www.open.org/~pioneerc/pg38.html

LAST: Savage  FIRST: John  MID:
GENDER: M  MAIDEN NAME:  TITLE:
BORN: 18 Sep 1826  DIED: 23 Jan 1908  BURIED: 25 Jan 1908
ETHNIC:  OCCUPATION: Farmer
BIRTH PLACE : Ohio
DEATH PLACE: Salem, Marion Co., Oregon
NOTES:
IOOF - John Savage, Sr., age 81, born in Ohio, died in Salem of dropsy,
was
an old settler here; OSBH (Marion County 1908) #5707 - John Savage, Sr.,
male, married, b. Ohio, d. 23 Jan 1908 in Salem, Oregon at the age of 81
years, father born in Ohio (name hard to read), interment IOOF 25 Jan
1908,
undertaker A. M. Clough, no informant listed; 1870 Census - John Savage,
age
43, farmer, b. Ohio, is enumerated with Morgan L. (18, teacher, b.
Oregon),
Ellen (9, b. Oregon), Alice (6, b. Oregon), George O. (12, b. Oregon)
and
Etta (5, b. Oregon); BIOGRAPHICAL: "John Savage, subject of this sketch,
was
born September 16, 1826, in Ohio and with his father, Towner Savage, and
the
rest of the family, moved to Schoolcraft, Michigan, where they lived a
few
years and from there immigrated to Oregon in 1846. A more extended
account
of Towner Savage and his genealogy appears elsewhere in this volume.
John
Savage was but twenty years of age when he crossed the plains and no
doubt
drove an ox team or herded the loose stock, to do his bit. In their
immigrant train were Sidney, Tom and Asa Smith, a family by name of
Walker
and others. Oscar Williams was captain of the train. Four years after
his
arrival in the Willamette Valley he married Rhoda Presley, daughter of
David
Presley. They were married at the old Presley home, just west of the
Oregon
state fairgrounds, in 1850, and went to live on their donation land
claim
four miles northeast of Salem, on the Silverton road, in a log house he
had
built several years before. After Rhoda's death, John Savage married
Eleanor
Tarrant. As to his religious belief, John Savage was a Universalist and
a
democrat as to politics. He learned the trade of blacksmith from John
Bash,
one of the first men of that trade in Salem, Oregon. At the time they
moved
on their claim, Mr. Savage said the native grass was so high that when
his
oxen laid down it was very hard to find them, and the nearest flour mill
at
the time they came to Oregon was below Oregon City, and it took two days
by
ox team to make the trip one way. The children of John Savage and Rhoda
Presley were: Morgan, who died 1879, unmarried. Letitia, who married W.
G.
Evans. Eliza, who married J. W. Brooks. George 0, who married Sarah
Walker.
Ella, who married Prince Byrne. Hannah, died aged 3 years, in 1866.
Alice,
who married William Martin. Etta, who married L. P. Gleason." From:
Steeves,
Sarha Hunt, BOOK OF REMEMBRANCE OF MARION COUNTY, OREGON, PIONEERS 1840
-
1860, Portland, Oregon, The Berncliff Press, 1927 (Source: G. O. Savage,
Salem, Oregon, 1926) pp 67-68.

Savage, Rhoda
LAST: Savage  FIRST: Rhoda  MID:
GENDER: F  MAIDEN NAME: Presley  TITLE: Mrs.
BORN: 26 Jan 1832  DIED: 12 Mar 1866  BURIED: Mar 1866
ETHNIC:  OCCUPATION: Housewife
DEATH PLACE: Marion Co., Oregon
NOTES:
First wife of John Savage
INSCRIPTION:
Savage, Rhoda: wife of John Savage,
died 12 Mar 1866, aged 34 years, 1 month, 17 days
SOURCES:
DAR pg 16

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Oddly, the parents aren't there?

On a Marion Co., query page;

Re: CANNON; PRESLEY; SMITH

Posted by Kirby Ross <dthill at uswest.com> on Mon, 10 May 1999

Surname: Cannon, Presley, Smith
Looking for information on MARY SMITH CANNON/LEWIS W. CANNON who settled
in
Marion County ca. 1849, along with DAVID PRESLEY/MAHALA WELTY PRESLEY.
SIDNEY SMITH/BARBARA PRESLEY SMITH settled in Marion County in 1853,
moved
to Linn County with David Presley ca. 1860.


from;	http://www.rootsweb.com/~molincol/misc/ms-smith-history.htm
140 Years Of Smith History              July 2004

1847 1848   Lewis and Mary Smith Cannon, and daughter Rachel, go to
Marion
                      County, Oregon, on the Oregon Trail.
            1848   David Presley and Mahala Welty Presley, and children,
                       including Barbara, go to Oregon.
            1848   Sidney goes back to Oregon.  Given the family
relationships, the
                       Cannon's, Presley's and Sidney, probably all
traveled
together.
                       Thomas and Azariah will either go back with him
or go
back in
                       1849 with Calvin.
13 Feb 1849   Sidney Smith marries Barbara Presley in Linn Co.
                     Oregon, then goes on to California, leaving his
wife
with
                      the Presley's.  They will have four children.

I see that the Salem Census taker in 1860 was a lazy twit, just first
initial for everybody on the page.

Trying to figure out what happened to Rhoda is a puzzle, there are three
J
Savages in Marion county in 1870 none of them married to a Rhoda., DUH
LES I
just checked her date of death, no wonder I can't find her in 1870 or
1880.
I assume the two male Presley's born in Missouri that show up in Linn Co
in
the 1870 Census are Rhoda's brothers.

That is about all the damage I can do from here. Someone in the Salem
area
could probably do more research there.

I am surprised there is no mention in the Blue book or online how the
fair
grounds were acquired, specifically no mention of David, but as we see
from
the Savage inscription it is close to the fairgrounds.

Les C




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