[or-roots] Water Related Story

Nancy Lee Adams nancydean at columbia-center.org
Wed Apr 15 22:51:56 PDT 2009 

About thirty yrs ago I was showed the blazed trees & told that's how they 
marked the boundary line for our 80 acres by blazing the inside of the tree 
the land is on. It might have been the ggGrandfather who did this, not sure. 
I don't know much on how to really describe it. The 80 acres directly next 
to our 80 acres that line it took the surveyors extra 3 days to figure out 
the correct line. That is the one we do not agree with. These surveyors were 
hired by the neighbor..

Nancy
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leslie Chapman" <reedsportchapmans at verizon.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Water Related Story


> Nancy;
>
> I would be curious what the blazes were. If they were blazes that the
> "original entry" surveyors were required to make when they ran the section
> lines and the quarter lines if needed. They "should" have deliniated your
> property line if your ownership is "aliquot" parts. That being said, if
> original corners were lost and the surveyors charged with re-setting them
> could not find sufficeient evidence of the original locations and had to
> proportion them in it is possible your original boundries are no longer 
> your
> "true" property lines. Unfortunatley the chances of overturning that are
> fairly limited unless you can prove the surveyor made an error. As a non
> licensed citizen you have zero chance of that and your only hope would be 
> to
> convince another surveyor to "correct" the issue for you. Which would
> probably cost more than the lost real estate was worth unless it is of
> buildable lot size.
>
> we had an involved discussion in one of our Licensed Surveyor of Oregon
> annual conference this year about the difference between precision and
> accuracy and the role of the survyor in "judging' property ownership. Most
> surveyors will tell you that the do NOT determine propert lines, they just
> "survey the deed" but almost anytime you do that you are making decisions
> that affect the outcome of the survey and it is entirely possible the 
> folks
> that moved your lines made a wrong one.
>
> Les
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
> [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Nancy Lee
> Adams
> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 10:07 PM
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> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Water Related Story
>
>
> Fred -
>
> I love your story as that's the way I read some of the legal descriptions
> were, but yours story is really detailed <g> In the old days the
> boundary/land description would read from one blazed tree to another. We 
> had
> blazed trees to show the boundary on our farm in Jackson Co. but a forest
> fire came right up to the farm & burned those trees. Now the neighbor has
> done a modern survey & those blazed trees mean nothing anyways. Plus we 
> lost
> a good 10 to12 feet from this modern survey.
>
> Nancy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <ffarner at coinet.com>
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> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 6:18 PM
> Subject: [or-roots] Water Related Story
>
>
>> Just a story:
>>
>> About thirty years ago my wife, of the time, and I were looking for a
>> small farm to buy.  We liked a piece near Horton, Oregon, about sixty
>> acres. The bulk of the property lay to the east of a small creek that ran
>> north to south.  Well, when I went to the courthouse to research the 
>> piece
>> I was rather shocked to see the legal description took [I think] eight or
>> nine pages!  I found an old timer in town and inquired as to what maybe
>> was the cause of this.  He explained to me that the original settler 
>> there
>> had homesteaded the place did not trust big business.  Timber companies 
>> in
>> particular.  So, when he had to sell off the steep, non-farmable land he
>> made dead certain those timber barons didn't get any of HIS farm land.
>> The boundary to the west of the creek [and therefore not farmable anyway
>> due to the lay of the land] read something like this; 'from the three 
>> foot
>> stake running northwest about thirty feet to the pointed rock that is one
>> and a half feet above the ground, thence running fifteen feet to the 
>> cedar
>> tree that lightning has split,...........  Anyway, you get the picture.
>> That useless piece of ground had over three hundred way points in its 
>> half
>> mile run.  But, it certainly made sure no timber baron could get to his
>> creek for water.  Of course, above and below his place they could.  We
>> didn't buy the property for different reasons.
>>
>> Fred F
>>
>>> Sue,
>>>
>>> Thank you! I have been in the Jackson Co. Watermaster's office many
>>> times,
>>> but never thought to ask them my question. That would have been a good
>>> time to ask. Silly me <g>
>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>   From: Sue Steward
>>>   To: or-roots mail list
>>>   Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 1:43 PM
>>>   Subject: Re: [or-roots] Water location posted
>>>
>>>
>>>   Nancy, I have a friend who works in the Jackson County Watermaster's
>>> office.  I'll try to contact her tonight and see if she can give us any
>>> info.  I tried to call her at the office but she is in a class today.
>>>
>>>   Sue
>>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>>     From: Nancy Lee Adams
>>>     To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
>>>     Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 11:46 AM
>>>     Subject: [or-roots] Water location posted
>>>
>>>
>>>     Hi everyone -
>>>     I was wondering if anyone knew how a farmer/miner who filed a water
>>> location in Jackson Co., OR. would post it on his land like our water
>>> location document reads 'posted on the east bank of said creek', and
>>> starts on the boundary line, In 1902. Does anyone know how it might be
>>> posted? Would it be a piece of paper nailed to a tree, a pile of
>>> rocks, or? Any ideas? I imagine what ever it was is all gone after
>>> about 107 years, with logging, forest fires & such. I know where the
>>> water location is, but I would like to hike around it & see if I can
>>> find something.
>>>
>>>     Thanks, Nancy
>>>
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