[or-roots] Bill Scott - clarification

Mon Jan 19 21:39:30 PST 2009

I didn't follow this thread closely so I don't know if the original query mentioned ages or how long the marriage lasted...but, a "property right" can be established through eligibility for social security survivor benefits (even though these may be a few years down the road) if a marriage lasted longer than ten years.  I've assisted a number of people to obtain death certificates (although not in this state) and have found that if there is a well reasoned "need to know", it is usually possible to get a copy of the records. In several instances the need for the death certificate was to provide documentation to credit reporting agencies...in two of these cases the persons needing the death certificates were divorced former spouses whose credit ratings were still intermingled with those of the former spouses. In one instance of a divorced former spouse there was a need to know the cause of death because of communicable health issues.

Carla

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From: Sue Steward <ssteward at ccountry.net>
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The obit doesn't mention children so I assume there were none, otherwise I'd have your sister-in-law have the children request a copy of the death certificate.  

WHO IS ELIGIBLE TO ORDER A DEATH, MARRIAGE, DIVORCE OR DOMESTIC PARTNERSHIP REGISTRATION CERTIFICATE  Access to death, marriage, divorce and domestic partnership records filed in the State V
ital Records office is restricted for 50 years after the date of the event to family members and their legal representatives, persons or organizations with a personal or property right, government agencies and persons licensed in Oregon under ORS 703.430. When ordering a death, marriage, divorce or domestic partnership record, you must state your relationship to the registrant, or your reason for needing the record. If you are a legal representative of a family member, include whom you represent and how they are related to the person named on the record. If you have a personal or property right, explain why you need the record. If you are not eligible to order the record, please include a permission note with the notarized signature of an eligible person.   Does she have any information to indicate he had an insurance policy or something that named her as beneficiary which might require a death certificate to claim?  Did they own joint property that she needs to have his name removed or any similar type situation?

I personally would give it a shot and contact the funeral home and see if she can accomplish anything that way. 

I know you said his family is "different" and didn't notify her.  My other suggestion would be to contact one of the sisters if she had any kind of relationship with them and see what she could find out.

Good luck!

Sue 

From: Judy 

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019, 2009 2:07 PM

Subject: [or-roots] Bill Scott - clarification

Dear All,

Thank you so much for your help in the matter of finding information on the death of Bill Scott. I have been out of the genealogical research world for a few years so I see my request was not as clear as it should have been--sorry...any way:

Clarification:

Bill Scott (husband of my husband's sister..doesn't that make him my brother-in-law by marriage? or just my sister-in-law's husband?) and my sister-in-law had been divorced recently before his death.  At the time of his death she was living in Washington and he had moved back to Portland.  Shortly after he left she heard that he had died.  His family is a bit "different" and did not inform her of his death.  She found out through other people.  I don't know who put the information in for his obit, but I know even though he drove a truck for a short while (everything he did was for a short while...) there is no way he could have ever owned a trucking company. I truly appreciate your help!  Since at the time of his death, they were not married, can she still get a copy of his death certificate?  Will Mt. Scott Funeral Home give her any information?

Thanks so much, again, for all your help!

Judy Hakins

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The Oregonian

Sunday, October 01, 2006 

William "Bill" Scott Jr. died Sept. 21 at age 40. 

Mr. Scott was born June 8, 1966, in Minneapolis and moved to Portland in 1971. He graduated from Marshall High School and owned his own trucking business called Market Transport Ltd. 

Survivors include his mother, Carol J. Scott; father and stepmother, Bill Sr. and Carol Scott; sisters, Cheryl Villarreal and Michelle Scott; twin brother, Bob Scott; brother, Ray Villareal; fiancee and her son, Diane and Tyler Harris; and grandmother, Mary York. 

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Judy

What are we missing here? I would have expected that the wife would (1) know where he died and (2) have been the informant on the DC. Were they estranged?

If they were estranged, but not divorced, she should be able to order a Death Certificate from the State Health Department. 

There is no obituary that I can find – but there may be something in the Lincoln papers. 

Pat (in Tucson) 

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