[or-roots] Illinois marriage

[Paulette]

Thanks for the info. Couldn't find any Shaws or Northrups in my Tatum materials. They went to Iowa and Kansas, and some to Texas before coming to the NW by the 1920 census.

-----Original Message-----
>From: "Harguess, Dale" <dharguess at coastline.edu>
>Sent: Jun 12, 2009 11:54 AM
>To: Paulette <pswitzertatum at peoplepc.com>, or-roots mail list <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
>Subject: Re: [or-roots] Illinois marriage
>
>Interesting.  My Shaw's and Northrup's came from Fulton county, Il to
>Oregon.  Must have been a jumping off place.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
>[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of
>Paulette
>Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:12 PM
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>Subject: Re: [or-roots] Illinois marriage
>
>I'm sorry, I do not see any familiar names here. The Ashe Co., North
>Carolina Tatums had several daughters, one of whom married a Howell, but
>I don't know what happened to them. Some of the James P. Tatum sons went
>to Fulton County, ILL before going to Iowa and on West.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Leslie Chapman <reedsportchapmans at verizon.net>
>>Sent: Jun 10, 2009 4:12 PM
>>To: or-roots mail list <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
>>Subject: [or-roots] Illinois marriage
>>
>>Paulette; Jumping in to ask if your (fill in the surname here) line is
>>connected to somebody else's is never rude on this list; especially if
>you
>>do it so politely!
>>
>>Dale;
>>
>>Would this be the right time from for your unknown wedding?
>>
>>HOWELL, JAMES T         RENTFRO, SARAH S            1843-01-10
>00B/0196
>>JOHNSON
>>
>>http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/marrcopy.html
>>
>>will advise you of the possibility of obtaining copies and how if that
>looks
>>like a possible. I have run across several of llewelling/llellewyn
>(etc)
>>names in my search today, I guess I shoulda itemized them. Do you want
>the
>>image of the Carrols I ran across yesterday? It shouldn't take me more
>than
>>a few minutes to find them since they were on about the first page of
>>whatever part of the census they were in.
>>
>>In Morrow Co Marriages I have;
>>
>>John S Brown 		ma 	Maggie Lieuallen 	June, 20 1887
>>Joseph Lewallen (?) 		Dell C Montgomery  	Sept 3, 1889
>>Jesse A Lieuallen		Melvina Owen		July 1, 1892
>>Abraham Louelling		Mary E. Rayburn	August 13, 1893
>>Charles Hasting			Edith Luelling		May 12,
>1894
>>John Howell			Nellie Merrill		August 25, 1894
>>William J. Carrolll		Rosa Wade		June 8, 1896
>>John Padberg 			Della Lieuallen		March 16, 1897
>>Mathais Halverson		Mary E. Lieuallen	July 25, 1901
>>George  G. Anderson		Emma B. Howell 	May 10, 1903
>>F. H. Howell			McDaniel		June 26, 1910
>>
>>Was doing real good, one on just about every other page till Mathias on
>page
>>20 and then only two more in the last 14 pages. So which ones are your
>Dale?
>>I'm pretty sure none of them are mine! And is that really four
>different
>>families?
>>
>>If anyone else is interested in a look-up (27 Apr 1885 - 2 Dec 1910 and
>>knows the approximate date looking won't be too much trouble, if lots
>of
>>folks want "do you have any Miller" kinda looks-ups I probably should
>scan
>>them so I can word find them.
>>
>>Les C
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Dale
>>Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 2:49 PM
>>
>>This has really gotten me to thinking about the Carrol(l) family that I
>>haven't really done much research on.  Hettie Carroll married James
>>Ellison Howell back in either Indiana or Illinois (I can't remember).
>>They had two sons, Andrew Howell and Stanford Howell.  Hettie died soon
>>after Stanford was born and James remarried a woman named Sarah (don't
>>know her last name).  I don't know if they got married in Illinois or
>if
>>he met and married her in Arkansas.  I doubt he would take two infant
>>sons to Arkansas by himself though.  In Arkansas they were close to the
>>Marrs family and some of the Howell children married Marrs children.
>>They all went to Oregon after James died.  Andrew and Stanford had gone
>>first.  Sarah Howell took all of her remaining children to Oregon.
>>
>>Evidently the Carrol(l) name was important to the family because Sarah
>>and James named one of their sons Carrol and he named one of his sons
>>Carrol.  I had never thought to look for Carrols in Oregon, only in
>>Illinois or Indiana (I can't remember).  But then when James and Sarah
>>Howell's daughter Sarah married John Llewelen and I found that his
>>father's name was Elison Llewelen and that they were from the same
>>Illinois or Indiana I started thinking these people must have either
>all
>>been part of the same religion or their ancestors had come to America
>>together and they were like a big clan that stayed together and moved
>>together.  So, now I wonder if the Carrols were part of the group too.
>>
>>Such a fascinating puzzle.
>>
>>Dale;
>>
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