[or-roots] Unusual first names
Harguess, Dale
dharguess at coastline.edu
Tue Jun 16 08:26:56 PDT 2009
Here we go again. I have a bunch of Arminta Jane’s in my family. I wonder if there was a famous person named Arminta Jane?
Dale
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Paulette
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Thanks for the info on "Zilphia." And, yes, Echo Gladness Royce is a wonderful name! I always thought my mother's name, Vella, was odd, and her sister was Persis. For some reason, I think my favorite family names are Andrew Jackson Tatum and his wife Arminta Jane.
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From: Roy Blaine
Sent: Jun 15, 2009 4:58 PM
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I suspect Zilphia comes from the biblical Zilpa or Zilpah - servant of Leah, Jacob's wife. In my family it appears as Zilfie and I suspect is a source of the more common name Zelda, also in my family.
Now that we're sharing, my grandmother's brothers included Hiram ("Uncle Pete") and Oscar ("Uncle Gent") Wheeler just to name a few good ol' Silk Creek boys.
Roy N. Blaine
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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 11:10:47 -0700
From: cjpjoppe at yahoo.com
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Subject: Re: [or-roots] Unusual first names
From another confessed unusual "first name" collector, isn't Zilphia one of the biblical names?
My family had some biblical doozies - Jeptha (J.C.), Enoch(Sprig), Ashnah and Zetta (Jenny) - all of them used nicknames - the ones in parentheses. Another branch from the deep south included ArieMae (Mae), WynoDean, MattieSue and WillaJean (Jean). ArieMae's brothers (after the firstborn son getting the father's name and being dubbed Junior) were named Red, Brown, Blue and Green... Red went on to name his daughter PinkieMae...
My grandmother (ArieMae) said when you were expecting, you were supposed to holler the name you were thinking about as loud as you could from the back porch to see if anybody else answered to it - and if it was a good easy name to holler. If nobody answered to it, then you could use that name for your kid.
Out of all that I've come across, my favorite unusual was Echo Gladness Royce.
carole
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From: Cuprum4445 at aol.com <Cuprum4445 at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Unusual first names
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Date: Monday, June 15, 2009, 9:05 AM
I'm reminded of two friends who "collected" unusual first names, before they had home computers. They hand wrote all the names alphabetically in pencil, so they could erase & add more names. When that got too messy, they'd rewrite the whole list. I didn't believe them until they showed us their lists at the Family HIstory Center.
Before my PC & copy machine, I'd hand write family group sheets & ancestor charts to share with relatives. Ooh! I was much younger then. Modern technology can be frustrating at times, but I wouldn't go back to the "old days" of genealogy.
Unusual names can sometimes be a clue to ancestors but yes, names go in trends. Just look at the names young mothers give their children today. Pity the child who was named King Benjamin Peck - he went by K. B. Sometimes when a person is named after a family member, they use their middle name. Nicknames also make searching family hard. Census enumerators had to guess how to spell illiterate immigrants' names. Some names may have been the parents' idea of what career she wanted her child to achieve - setting the goal. The Peck family were in the wrong country to expect their son to become "King" though. Oh well!
Gerrie
In a message dated 6/15/2009 9:35:09 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, dharguess at coastline.edu writes:
Once again I have to comment on the interesting names that people gave their children back in those days. My James Ellison Howell who was born in Tennessee had a brother names Squire Howell. He also named one of his sons (a twin) Doctor Carswell Howell. When I was doing the genealogy I couldn’t help think that these people had delusions of grandeur but now I think they must have just been fad names at the time. Lafayette was another common name at this time in history. I must have at least six Lafayette’s.
Dale
P.S. I have friend named Zilpha that is a pretty unusual name.
Anthony Moore married Zilphia Haines (daughter of Bethanah/Bethany Haines) in Frederick, Virginia. They were Quakers. They moved to Tennessee. Their son David Moore married "out of unity" to Margaret Sherman in Tennessee. This was in the Lone Mountain area of NE Tennessee - near Grainger, Hawkins, Greene, and Claiborne counties, TN. Of many kids, David Moore had two sons I know a lot about : Squire Moore and Alfred Moore. Squire Moore's first wife was Rebecca Capps. They are the parents of my great great grandmother Lucinda Jane Moore Sumner b. About 1831 in TN. She married Samuel Sumner Jr. (b. Abt. 1829 Clark Co., IN) in Linn County, Missouri. After Rebecca died, Squire married again to Celia Catherine Anderson Curtis and had about 5 more kids; his second wife already had many kids so there were about 15 altogether.
Many of David Moore's children married the children of Fielding Lewis of the Lone Mt. area of TN. For example, Lucinda Moore, the youngest sister of Squire and Alfred Moore married Fielding Lewis Jr. They had moved to MO and then left for Oregon in 1852. On the Oregon Trail, Lucinda and three of her children died. Fielding Jr. and the other children settled in Oregon. I have more details if you want them.
Lucinda Jane Moore Sumner's favorite cousin was Margaret Melissa Moore, daughter of Alfred Moore and Mahulda Bullard. They are buried near each other in Etna Cemetery, Polk County. Lucinda's half brother James Robinson Moore married Nancy Ellen McClintock and they came to Oregon as well and lived near the Etna Church in Polk County. Nancy Ellen's sister Eliza Frances McClintock married James Edgar, and they are buried in Etna Cemetery as well. Samuel and Lucinda Jane Moore Sumner's son James Clark Sumner married Lucinda Frances Tremain in Linn Co., MO; she was the daughter of John Hardy Tremain and Mary Ann McClintock - a sister of Nancy Ellen and Eliza. These sisters were the daughters of Findley McClintock and his wife Nancy Sumner. "We are all related."
Paulette
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