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<DIV>It is not "unpatriotic" to oppose this war. If the German people had
opposed Hitler's wars and genocide- many lives could have been spared.</DIV>
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<DIV>My father fought in hand to hand combat on Iwo Jima and also fought in
Korea. His brother died while strafing the enemy over France. His other two
brothers served in the Army and Navy as well during WWII. Their sacrifices were
to protect all views and our ability to speak freely our opinions. It
is GOOD to have two sides. If not, we are living under a dictatorship where only
one view is prevalent. </DIV>
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<DIV>I too love my country. It is a spectacular place. But I am no less a
patriot for opposing this war. </DIV>
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<DIV>In love and peace,</DIV>
<DIV>Laura</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:kat1928@integrity.com">kat1928@integrity.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us">or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:59
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [or-roots] Patriotism,
etc.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Quoting Verdena Veelle <<A
href="mailto:vveelle@molalla.net">vveelle@molalla.net</A>>:<BR><BR>>
Dorothy it looks like you did a very good thing with your post. I
get<BR>> so sick of the<BR>> people who want to do nothing but put our
country down. The<BR>> entertainers who have so much<BR>> seem to
be among the worst and the media is pretty bad also.<BR>> <BR>> I am
only 60 but have been disabled since 1997 when I almost died from a<BR>>
rare occurrence<BR>> involving an infection in my chest.<BR>> <BR>> I
grew up on a farm and had quite strict parents. They were older
also.<BR>> My father lost<BR>> his first wife and he had four
children. My mother was told she would<BR>> never had
children<BR>> but when she was 36 she got pregnant with me. My father
was either 7 or<BR>> 9 years older<BR>> than her. My father
enlisted for W.W.I but had to get out to help his<BR>> parents, my<BR>>
half-brother served in W.W.II and my own son was in the Navy for five<BR>>
years.<BR>> <BR>> It was only by my father and mother's resourcefulness
that we survived I<BR>> believe. Mother<BR>> was a teacher in one
room schools but in the summer she gardened and<BR>> canned all the
time.<BR>> We had cows and chickens for milk and eggs. She baked a
lot. She<BR>> picked the wild berries<BR>> and even gathered
dandelion greens. She butchered the chickens which we<BR>> usually
had for<BR>> Sunday dinner and had company almost every Sunday
also.<BR>> <BR>> I agree that we are spoiled and even though we don't
have as much as<BR>> some we have so much<BR>> more that our parents
would never have even dreamed off. I picked<BR>> berries and green
beans<BR>> in the summer to get money to buy my school clothes. I
realize that<BR>> even my childhood<BR>> would have seemed luxury to my
grandparents and great-grandparents. <BR>> What would they<BR>>
think today when we take so many things for granted?<BR>> <BR>> I do
believe that most people interested in genealogy have the tendency<BR>> to
honor the past<BR>> more so than those who are not into it.<BR>>
<BR>> There are many wonderful people on this list. Good to hear from
Cecil<BR>> again.<BR>> Verdena Veelle<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
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<A
href="http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots">http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots</A><BR><BR>You
come from good pioneer stock. People had to do with what they had.
Even <BR>when I was growing up and during my marriage, I drew from what I
learned from <BR>my parents resourcefulness.<BR><BR>I still miss those early
dandelion/lambsquarter/ dock/ misc. weed greens!<BR>They are the best.
They seemed to contain a good dose of vitamins<BR>that everyone needed after a
long winter. I long to stop the car and gather<BR> some but along
the road they are covered with lead and polution.<BR>elsewhere the dogs have
"fertilized" them so I go without.> <BR><BR>I wish I lived on an acreage
and I would enjoy them every Spring.<BR>Aren't there some delicious berries
growing wild too!<BR>We lived off the land and those "hard times" were
special. Families<BR>were closer and it was nice to warm in front of a
wood stove and<BR>enjoy the love of your family. I really believe some
of my most<BR>wonderful times were when we were"poor"- according to today's
standards.<BR><BR>I'm not saying everything was good but there were good times
- even<BR>in a violent family atmosphere like I grew up in.<BR><BR>Nice
hearing your
remembrances.<BR><BR>Dorothy<BR>_______________________________________________<BR>or-roots
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