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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I am sorry if I may have mislead any one, the crash I
referred to was probably no later</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>than <STRONG>1920. </STRONG>There was another
during the mid 1930's when Portland airport was in the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>center of Williamette River. During a heavy fog a
plane did crash. It was one of the reasons</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>the airport was moved in land.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>There was also a plane that crashed near the beach, near,
I beleive Haystack Rock, on the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>coast. That two was late 20's or early
30's.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Apparently in the early 1930s, Lindberg brough his plane
out to the area. I have a photo</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>of my step grandfather leaning against it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Also, in 1937, a Russian fighter plane landed over in
Washington. I have a copy of the new</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>item my step grandfather kept.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Gene</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<A title=sharonor@aracnet.com href="mailto:sharonor@aracnet.com">Sharon
Ryan</A> </DIV>
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title=or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 02, 2004 8:07
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [or-roots] Portland plane
crash</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Les:<BR><BR>The plane that crashed in 1978 was not anywhere
near Bybee Street and 68th.<BR>The crash in 1978 was out SE further about
168th and Stark prox. I was only<BR>a few blocks away when it came down
and remember it well.<BR>SE 68th and Bybee is in the Sellwood / Woodstock
area, much further West and<BR>South of the 1978 crash site.<BR>Gene must be
referring to a different crash site.<BR><BR>Sharon<BR><BR><A
href="mailto:SharonOR@Aracnet.com">SharonOR@Aracnet.com</A><BR><A
href="http://www.HeritageTrailpress.com">www.HeritageTrailpress.com</A><BR>Where
the Oregon Death Index is FREE<BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message -----
<BR>From: "Leslie Chapman" <<A
href="mailto:khanjehgil@presys.com">khanjehgil@presys.com</A>><BR>To:
<<A
href="mailto:or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us">or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us</A>><BR>Sent:
Friday, April 02, 2004 7:03 PM<BR>Subject: [or-roots] Portland plane
crash<BR><BR><BR>> Tsk, Tsk you forgot to change subject line and almost
got ignored.<BR>><BR>> I don't know about phone service, I think town
may have had phone not long<BR>> after 1900, Connie??<BR>><BR>> As to
the plane crash, I remember it because my late nephews and their<BR>>
wife/mom were about ten blocks from it when it went down. I find
a<BR>reference<BR>> to a UAL crash on 12/28/1978 but don't think that is
the one as elsewhere<BR>> saw reference to it being a crash on takeoff
which the one you refer to<BR>> wasn't.<BR>><BR>> Okay after three
hours of searching I finally typed in "ran out of fuel"<BR>and<BR>> found
it in thirty seconds;<BR>><BR>> On December 28, 1978. a DC-8 ran out of
fuel at Portland, Oregon.<BR>> The flight
originated from J. F. Kennedy Airport, New York, via Denver<BR>><BR>> At
18.15 the DC-8 crashed into a wooded section of suburban Portland, six<BR>>
miles east-south-east of the airport. Fortunately it did not catch
fire.<BR>The<BR>> flight engineer, a flight attendant and eight passengers
were killed.<BR>> Twenty-three other passengers were seriously injured. The
fault in the<BR>> undercarriage was found to be due to a burned-out light
bulb.<BR>><BR>> for full text of cockpit conversation in this "stupidity
crash" see;<BR>><BR>> <A
href="http://www.najaco.com/books/aviationchorus/accidents_3.htm">http://www.najaco.com/books/aviationchorus/accidents_3.htm</A><BR>><BR>>
I'll try to get back to you on the phone thing.<BR>><BR>> Les
Chapman<BR>><BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From: Eugene
Barnes<BR>> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 3:51 PM<BR>><BR>>
Hi:<BR>><BR>> Does any one know when the area of Bayview/Waldport first
had Telepones<BR>> and Electrice lighting?<BR>><BR>> Also does any
one from the Portland area recall hearing about an airplane<BR>>
that<BR>> crashed near Bybie (sp) Street in Porland, circa 197-22 or
thereabouts?<BR>My<BR>> Grandmother who lived our on 68th Ave S.E. spoke of
it and I beleive she<BR>had<BR>> a piece of the rubberized fabric from that
aircraft.<BR>><BR>> Gene Barnes<BR>> Costa Mesa, CA<BR>> <A
href="http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots">http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots</A><BR>>
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