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<P>Patty;<BR><BR>You aren't real clear on what you are asking for, first it
seems you are unfamiliar with the concept of "lists" if that is the case I will
try to give a concise (pause for groan from rest of list) explanation of what a
"list" is about, and then since you haven't mentioned whether you have said info
will throw some census info at you.<BR><BR>LISTS; by joining this list you have
joined with a group of folks who have signed on to receive a copy of everything
anybody else sends in (there is digest form for those who find the occasional
mailing blitz cumbersome, the disadvantage is when html format mail such as this
comes through it is awkward). In theory the topic of this list is OREGON
genealogy and history. Our list mom is pretty tolerant (ie extended discussion
of 20th century weather at Christmas time) but the idea is to stick to topic.
Your submission is quite valid. Ideally to get best results you should give what
you know, what you want and the one thing a lot of us are guilty of forgetting;
put your email addy in body of query. Subject line relavent to query is
helpfull.<BR><BR>Remember, the more we know, the better we can help you, what a
lot of folks tend to do is send queries like: I want to know about the Jones
family. That doesn't tell us much and will probably be ignored. Your query could
have been better with some dates, but the fact it includes place names makes it
better by far than "Jones"; I have 33 folks in my family tree by the name Jones,
but if someone asked me for info on that surname odds are about 100,000 to one
it wouldn't be someone in MY family, so just asking for "Jones" would tend to
make me not want to bother.<BR><BR>Sometimes we be a little crotchety, sometime
folks will come on with well presented good queries and nobody will answer. We
may all be busy elsewhere, we may encounter the same problem that cause the
querier to turn to us in the first place; we can't find an answer either or
maybe the mood just doesn't strike us. We help out for two reasons, one a lot of
us like solving puzzles and are willing to spend our time helping a total
stranger and the other reason is to build "Karma" points. Most folks probably
wouldn't express it that way, but most folks here are basically nice folks that
like to be helpful, which is a very reciprocal kind of thing, if you like to
help folks, I can almost guarantee there will be peeps who will want to help you
and sooner or later if you stay here long someone will ask a question you can
answer. And, as I always have to point out "I" almost never go to look for
something for someone else without finding something that helps me.<BR><BR>Les
Chapman khanjehgil@presys.com<BR><BR>-1880 Census;</P>
<P>
<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=0 border=0>
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8> Name </FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Relation</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT color=#dbdbc8>Marital
Status</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Gender</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Race</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Age</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Birthplace</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Occupation</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Father's Birthplace</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Mother's Birthplace</FONT></TD></TR>
<TR bgColor=#ffffff>
<TD> <A
href="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_4453773_0&frompage=5">Sarah
SHIRTS</A> </TD>
<TD align=left> Self </TD>
<TD align=left> W </TD>
<TD align=left> Female </TD>
<TD align=left> W </TD>
<TD align=middle> 64 </TD>
<TD align=left> TN </TD>
<TD align=left> Keeping House </TD>
<TD align=left> VA </TD>
<TD align=left> VA </TD></TR>
<TR bgColor=#efefe7>
<TD> <A
href="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_4453773_1&frompage=5">Joel
SHIRTS</A> </TD>
<TD align=left> Son </TD>
<TD align=left> S </TD>
<TD align=left> Male </TD>
<TD align=left> W </TD>
<TD align=middle> 25 </TD>
<TD align=left> OR </TD>
<TD align=left> Laborer </TD>
<TD align=left> --- </TD>
<TD align=left> TN </TD></TR>
<TR bgColor=#ffffff>
<TD> <A
href="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_4453773_2&frompage=5">John
SHIRTS</A> </TD>
<TD align=left> GSon </TD>
<TD align=left> S </TD>
<TD align=left> Male </TD>
<TD align=left> W </TD>
<TD align=middle> 11 </TD>
<TD align=left> OR </TD>
<TD align=left> </TD>
<TD align=left> OR </TD>
<TD align=left> OR </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!-- Notes --><!-- Source Information --><BR>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0>
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD 10??> </TD>
<TD vAlign=top><B>Census Place</B></TD>
<TD vAlign=top>Pocahontas, Baker, Oregon</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD width=10> </TD>
<TD vAlign=top><B>Family History Library Film</B> </TD>
<TD vAlign=top><A
href="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=filmhitlist&columns=*%2C180%2C0&filmno=1255080"
target=_parent>1255080</A></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD width=10> </TD>
<TD vAlign=top><B>NA Film Number</B> </TD>
<TD vAlign=top>T9-1080</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD width=10> </TD>
<TD vAlign=top><B>Page Number</B> </TD>
<TD vAlign=top><A
href="javascript:imageWindow=open('1880USCensusCost.asp','imageRecord','menubar=yes,toolbar=yes,status=yes,resizable=yes,width=600,height=440');imageWindow=open('http://www.ancestry.com/FamilySearch/?nara=T9-1080&pgno=15A&irecid=1880US_4453773_0','imageRecord','menubar=yes,toolbar=yes,status=yes,resizable=yes,width=600,height=440');imageWindow.focus();">15A</A>
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>
<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=0 border=0>
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8> Name </FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Relation</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT color=#dbdbc8>Marital
Status</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Gender</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Race</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Age</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Birthplace</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Occupation</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Father's Birthplace</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Mother's Birthplace</FONT></TD></TR>
<TR bgColor=#ffffff>
<TD> <A
href="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_4470431_0&frompage=5">George
N SHIRTS</A> </TD>
<TD align=left> Self </TD>
<TD align=left> M </TD>
<TD align=left> Male </TD>
<TD align=left> W </TD>
<TD align=middle> 32 </TD>
<TD align=left> IN </TD>
<TD align=left> Farm Laborer </TD>
<TD align=left> CT </TD>
<TD align=left> TN </TD></TR>
<TR bgColor=#efefe7>
<TD> <A
href="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_4470431_1&frompage=5">Amanda
E SHIRTS</A> </TD>
<TD align=left> Wife </TD>
<TD align=left> M </TD>
<TD align=left> Female </TD>
<TD align=left> W </TD>
<TD align=middle> 18 </TD>
<TD align=left> OR </TD>
<TD align=left> Keeping House </TD>
<TD align=left> IN </TD>
<TD align=left> PA </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!-- Notes --><!-- Source Information --><BR>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0>
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD 10??> </TD>
<TD vAlign=top><B>Census Place</B></TD>
<TD vAlign=top>Halsey, Linn, Oregon</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD width=10> </TD>
<TD vAlign=top><B>Family History Library Film</B> </TD>
<TD vAlign=top><A
href="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=filmhitlist&columns=*%2C180%2C0&filmno=1255082"
target=_parent>1255082</A></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD width=10> </TD>
<TD vAlign=top><B>NA Film Number</B> </TD>
<TD vAlign=top>T9-1082</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD width=10> </TD>
<TD vAlign=top><B>Page Number</B> </TD>
<TD vAlign=top><A
href="javascript:imageWindow=open('1880USCensusCost.asp','imageRecord','menubar=yes,toolbar=yes,status=yes,resizable=yes,width=600,height=440');imageWindow=open('http://www.ancestry.com/FamilySearch/?nara=T9-1082&pgno=424D&irecid=1880US_4470431_0','imageRecord','menubar=yes,toolbar=yes,status=yes,resizable=yes,width=600,height=440');imageWindow.focus();">424D</A>
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></FONT></P>
<P>-Let me know if either of these looks like the right person, I couldn't find
George in 1870 or 1860 in Oreg</P>
<P> </P>
<P>on---Original Message-----<BR>From: Patty Starritt<BR>Sent: Friday, April 09,
2004 9:45 AM<BR><BR>Help! I don't really understand how all this works but
I am trying to find out the when and why of George and Sarah Shirts emigration
to Oregon from Indiana. Their last child Flora Shirts was born near
Portland but I can find no info on this. There is the possibility that
they were missionaries. Does anyone know anything about them?
Thanks.</P></BODY></HTML>