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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>iS ANYONE FAMILIAR WITH the Gibbs or Counts family.
They lived in southern Oregon. Or Moreland and Reed families. The Reeds were in
lumber and farming.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=khanjehgil@presys.com href="mailto:khanjehgil@presys.com">Leslie
Chapman</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us
href="mailto:or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us">or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 09, 2004 9:14
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [or-roots] George and Sarah
Shirts</DIV>
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<P>Patty;<BR><BR>You aren't real clear on what you are asking for, first it
seems you are unfamiliar with the concept of "lists" if that is the case I
will try to give a concise (pause for groan from rest of list) explanation of
what a "list" is about, and then since you haven't mentioned whether you have
said info will throw some census info at you.<BR><BR>LISTS; by joining this
list you have joined with a group of folks who have signed on to receive a
copy of everything anybody else sends in (there is digest form for those who
find the occasional mailing blitz cumbersome, the disadvantage is when html
format mail such as this comes through it is awkward). In theory the topic of
this list is OREGON genealogy and history. Our list mom is pretty tolerant (ie
extended discussion of 20th century weather at Christmas time) but the idea is
to stick to topic. Your submission is quite valid. Ideally to get best results
you should give what you know, what you want and the one thing a lot of us are
guilty of forgetting; put your email addy in body of query. Subject line
relavent to query is helpfull.<BR><BR>Remember, the more we know, the better
we can help you, what a lot of folks tend to do is send queries like: I want
to know about the Jones family. That doesn't tell us much and will probably be
ignored. Your query could have been better with some dates, but the fact it
includes place names makes it better by far than "Jones"; I have 33 folks in
my family tree by the name Jones, but if someone asked me for info on that
surname odds are about 100,000 to one it wouldn't be someone in MY family, so
just asking for "Jones" would tend to make me not want to
bother.<BR><BR>Sometimes we be a little crotchety, sometime folks will come on
with well presented good queries and nobody will answer. We may all be busy
elsewhere, we may encounter the same problem that cause the querier to turn to
us in the first place; we can't find an answer either or maybe the mood just
doesn't strike us. We help out for two reasons, one a lot of us like solving
puzzles and are willing to spend our time helping a total stranger and the
other reason is to build "Karma" points. Most folks probably wouldn't express
it that way, but most folks here are basically nice folks that like to be
helpful, which is a very reciprocal kind of thing, if you like to help folks,
I can almost guarantee there will be peeps who will want to help you and
sooner or later if you stay here long someone will ask a question you can
answer. And, as I always have to point out "I" almost never go to look for
something for someone else without finding something that helps me.<BR><BR>Les
Chapman khanjehgil@presys.com<BR><BR>-1880 Census;</P>
<P>
<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=0 border=0>
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8> Name </FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Relation</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Marital Status</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Gender</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Race</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Age</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Birthplace</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Occupation</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Father's Birthplace</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Mother's Birthplace</FONT></TD></TR>
<TR bgColor=#ffffff>
<TD> <A
href="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_4453773_0&frompage=5">Sarah
SHIRTS</A> </TD>
<TD align=left> Self </TD>
<TD align=left> W </TD>
<TD align=left> Female </TD>
<TD align=left> W </TD>
<TD align=middle> 64 </TD>
<TD align=left> TN </TD>
<TD align=left> Keeping House </TD>
<TD align=left> VA </TD>
<TD align=left> VA </TD></TR>
<TR bgColor=#efefe7>
<TD> <A
href="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_4453773_1&frompage=5">Joel
SHIRTS</A> </TD>
<TD align=left> Son </TD>
<TD align=left> S </TD>
<TD align=left> Male </TD>
<TD align=left> W </TD>
<TD align=middle> 25 </TD>
<TD align=left> OR </TD>
<TD align=left> Laborer </TD>
<TD align=left> --- </TD>
<TD align=left> TN </TD></TR>
<TR bgColor=#ffffff>
<TD> <A
href="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_4453773_2&frompage=5">John
SHIRTS</A> </TD>
<TD align=left> GSon </TD>
<TD align=left> S </TD>
<TD align=left> Male </TD>
<TD align=left> W </TD>
<TD align=middle> 11 </TD>
<TD align=left> OR </TD>
<TD align=left> </TD>
<TD align=left> OR </TD>
<TD align=left> OR </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!-- Notes --><!-- Source Information --><BR>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0>
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD 10??> </TD>
<TD vAlign=top><B>Census Place</B></TD>
<TD vAlign=top>Pocahontas, Baker, Oregon</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD width=10> </TD>
<TD vAlign=top><B>Family History Library Film</B> </TD>
<TD vAlign=top><A
href="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=filmhitlist&columns=*%2C180%2C0&filmno=1255080"
target=_parent>1255080</A></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD width=10> </TD>
<TD vAlign=top><B>NA Film Number</B> </TD>
<TD vAlign=top>T9-1080</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD width=10> </TD>
<TD vAlign=top><B>Page Number</B> </TD>
<TD vAlign=top><A
href="javascript:imageWindow=open('1880USCensusCost.asp','imageRecord','menubar=yes,toolbar=yes,status=yes,resizable=yes,width=600,height=440');imageWindow=open('http://www.ancestry.com/FamilySearch/?nara=T9-1080&pgno=15A&irecid=1880US_4453773_0','imageRecord','menubar=yes,toolbar=yes,status=yes,resizable=yes,width=600,height=440');imageWindow.focus();">15A</A>
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>
<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=0 border=0>
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8> Name </FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Relation</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Marital Status</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Gender</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Race</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Age</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Birthplace</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Occupation</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Father's Birthplace</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Mother's Birthplace</FONT></TD></TR>
<TR bgColor=#ffffff>
<TD> <A
href="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_4470431_0&frompage=5">George
N SHIRTS</A> </TD>
<TD align=left> Self </TD>
<TD align=left> M </TD>
<TD align=left> Male </TD>
<TD align=left> W </TD>
<TD align=middle> 32 </TD>
<TD align=left> IN </TD>
<TD align=left> Farm Laborer </TD>
<TD align=left> CT </TD>
<TD align=left> TN </TD></TR>
<TR bgColor=#efefe7>
<TD> <A
href="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_4470431_1&frompage=5">Amanda
E SHIRTS</A> </TD>
<TD align=left> Wife </TD>
<TD align=left> M </TD>
<TD align=left> Female </TD>
<TD align=left> W </TD>
<TD align=middle> 18 </TD>
<TD align=left> OR </TD>
<TD align=left> Keeping House </TD>
<TD align=left> IN </TD>
<TD align=left> PA </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!-- Notes --><!-- Source Information --><BR>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0>
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD 10??> </TD>
<TD vAlign=top><B>Census Place</B></TD>
<TD vAlign=top>Halsey, Linn, Oregon</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD width=10> </TD>
<TD vAlign=top><B>Family History Library Film</B> </TD>
<TD vAlign=top><A
href="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=filmhitlist&columns=*%2C180%2C0&filmno=1255082"
target=_parent>1255082</A></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD width=10> </TD>
<TD vAlign=top><B>NA Film Number</B> </TD>
<TD vAlign=top>T9-1082</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD width=10> </TD>
<TD vAlign=top><B>Page Number</B> </TD>
<TD vAlign=top><A
href="javascript:imageWindow=open('1880USCensusCost.asp','imageRecord','menubar=yes,toolbar=yes,status=yes,resizable=yes,width=600,height=440');imageWindow=open('http://www.ancestry.com/FamilySearch/?nara=T9-1082&pgno=424D&irecid=1880US_4470431_0','imageRecord','menubar=yes,toolbar=yes,status=yes,resizable=yes,width=600,height=440');imageWindow.focus();">424D</A>
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></FONT></P>
<P>-Let me know if either of these looks like the right person, I couldn't
find George in 1870 or 1860 in Oreg</P>
<P> </P>
<P>on---Original Message-----<BR>From: Patty Starritt<BR>Sent: Friday, April
09, 2004 9:45 AM<BR><BR>Help! I don't really understand how all this
works but I am trying to find out the when and why of George and Sarah Shirts
emigration to Oregon from Indiana. Their last child Flora Shirts was
born near Portland but I can find no info on this. There is the
possibility that they were missionaries. Does anyone know anything about
them? Thanks.</P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>