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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Gee, I don’t know, but I think this
would be worth dropping a dime on him to BYU – My guess is that they
wouldn’t look too favorably on one of their instructors blowing someone
off like this. Do you know anyone on that campus in </span></font><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Idaho</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>?</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Perhaps a compromise? You send him the
information “ready to upload” (whatever that is) so all he has to
do is forward it to </span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Salt</span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> </span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Lake</span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>BTW, I complained about someone co-opting
a lot of my information (from a CD to which I had contributed [bad]) and then
sending it to </span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Salt</span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> </span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Lake</span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>. I observe that the information is no longer on the site. This guy
had wholesale taken trees for which he had *<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>no</span></b>*
relationship and sent them in a batch, I guess. Anyway, they are *<b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>all</span></b>* down. You will not find his name
anywhere on the site.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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color:navy'>Tucson</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> or-roots-admin@sosinet.sos.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-admin@sosinet.sos.state.or.us] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>ViolaRae Kassing<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, June 20, 2004 11:27
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [or-roots] Uploads
and Documentation of Files</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> Here I am "A day late and lots of dollars
short" but for what it's worth - - - ? I am LDS (Morman) and a
genealogist to boot and as far as "the" records being correct - - -
holding breath counting to ten - - - - much of it is not! In my case
what is in error is the births/deaths between 1890 and 1950 some instructor
at "Rick's" collage submitted my father's line/s and we have
cousins as brother/sisters and sons as father's and names misspelled and now
it time to go back to bed with a sick headache. The man won't even
answer mail written or email since "it's not one of my primary
lines!"</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>HE could submit the corrections and solve the problem but
HE isn't interested. This has done a lot to put a damper
on my passion for genealogy!</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Verdena, I'll bet it was him that messed up your records
since we work on the same area of Oregon.</span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial'> <a href="mailto:kassing@charter.net">kassing@charter.net</a></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>541-882-7859</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><i><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>From:</span></font></i></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us">or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us</a></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><i><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Date:</span></font></i></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial'> 06/14/04
18:28:11</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><i><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>To:</span></font></i></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us">or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us</a></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><i><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Subject:</span></font></i></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re:
[or-roots] Uploads and Documentation of Files</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>i have just one more thing to say and then i am off
here. for years and years the LDS church has been saying that anyones
records can be corrected. this is wonderful but do you know of anyone
that has ACTUALLY changed anything that is on the record with the LDS
church. neither do i. i am not bashing the mormon's and i hope
this doesn't come across like that. the amt. of info that i have
received from the LDS church is astounding. these are some great people
who let this problem get away from them right from the get-go. it is
way too late to change anything. IN MY OPINION, and thats all it is,
they need to scrap everything they have and start over. i am admittedly
not smart enough to figure out how we could only have correct data coming in
but they do need to raise the bar on this one and i am sure someone far
smarter than myself has some opinions. i appreciate the opportunity to
vent as this is a real problem that needs someones attention. </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>gary in az.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:vveelle@molalla.net" title="vveelle@molalla.net">Verdena Veelle</a>
</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us"
title="or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us">or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us</a>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Monday, June 14,
2004 4:39 PM</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re: [or-roots]
Uploads and Documentation of Files</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><em><i><font size=3 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>I have seen the LDS records that claim that my
aunt, the youngest one in her family was married to her father.</span></font></i></em></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><em><i><font size=3 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>Verdena</span></font></i></em></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:cchouk@cox.net" title="cchouk@cox.net">Cecil Houk</a> </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us"
title="or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us">or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us</a>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Monday, June 14,
2004 3:58 PM</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re: [or-roots]
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I agree with Gary that LDS files contain
errors. I forget the man's name, but one of my 1850's ancestors married
his mother on the day he was born... according to LDS files. :-)
It's too bad those files are etched in stone.</span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial'>Cecil</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:gmurray1@cox.net" title="gmurray1@cox.net">gary murray</a> </span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us"
title="or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us">or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us</a>
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font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Monday, June 14,
2004 2:01 PM</span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re: [or-roots]
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>i'm sorry. it was not my intention to insult or hurt
anyones feelings when i posted.i know that most people are using the files at
some of these websites for a starting point and there is nothing wrong
with that. i have sat at the forum and other libraries and watched
people downloading thousands of names from the family search into their
files. i have asked if they were going to research all those names
themselves and have been told they were just too numerous and the file would
be come part of theirs. there is so much junk out there that it scares
me. everything i did up to about 10 years ago was on paper. every
item and every name was proven. i took classes thru the lds libraries
and they are the ones that said if you don't have at least three sources for
your material, it is not good. i hppen to disagree with that since a
lot of my early work was thru members of the family who are now gone, but i
do list where i got it. if i was a littleabrasive for some, and i can
be, i am sorry, again. the lds records on family search are corrupted
beyond hope. they will never be corrected. i have found a member
of my family that lds records say she had 27 children. my gr. gr. or
whatever had 12 children but the lds records show one child 6 times and some
of the others are the same. each person that submitted info on this
family had something different in their records so it became another child of
this family, even if it had the same name. i was selected many years
ago to be on the beta list for the family research. the lds church sent
me about 100 cd's. each time they upgraded it i got all new cd's.
this is how i know these cd's were NEVER corrected. and again, i am
sorry if i stepped on anyone's toes as this was not my intent. i just
want all the records that people use to be as accurate as possible.</span></font></p>
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