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<P>Jim;<BR><BR>I see your trouble, your people mostly hid from the Census
Takers. No Cummings in Arizona in 1870, I tried Joseph to circumvent the
possibility it was Cummins or some such, same way trying to trace Joseph in 1900
and 1910, I didn't try 1920. Oregon State Archives is blank for Joseph and
Thomas.<BR><BR>Google mostly I find the only relevant citations are about some
guy named Jim Cummings who has posted queries all over the place. You sure have
tried hard.<BR><BR>Is ther any chance your Joseph was a soldier?<BR><BR>July 25,
1863: As part of the Canyon de Chelly Campaign, Kit Carson decides to force the
Navajos to surrender by destroying their food supply. He orders Major Joseph
Cummings to proceed along the Bonito River, and to seize all livestock and
crops. Anything he cannot haul way, is burned.<BR><BR>from; <A
href="http://americanindian.net/newsletter0702.html"
target=_blank>http://americanindian.net/newsletter0702.html</A><BR><BR>Also
there are other numerous references to Joseph Cummings, the revolutionary war
hero, whose grandson was in the Confederate army. The grandson did himself in
though so probably not your line. There is also a listing for a Joseph Cummings
born in Arizona in 1924, is he family?<BR><BR>I don't think there is anything
relevant but there is a long discussion of that Surname
at;<BR> <A
href="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chascum/2002/cl20020428.html"
target=_blank>http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chascum/2002/cl20020428.html</A><BR><BR>In
Tennessee in 1860 I looked at all the heads of household I thought were likely
to have a 17 year old with them and came up blank, so either his family has
moved on or he is with a sibling or other relative. I didn't look at all 61
heads of household, just the ones over 35, and found some near misses;<BR><BR>in
the CUMMINGS JOSEPH SR 58 M W VA TN
VAN BUREN SPENCER 1860 household there is a;<BR><BR>Joseph Jr. aged
22 b Tenn,<BR><BR>in CUMMINGS G P 47 M W TN
TN WARREN MCMINVILLE 1860<BR> is a Joseph apparently
aged 11 though it could be a 17 who is out of order, b. Tenn<BR><BR>I thought I
had another one, but it was a John. I am going to paste in the 1880 census just
for the benefit of anyone on the list who might want to pursue this further. I
guess you should be gratefull they at least were in that one!<BR><BR>Before I
forget I find in Oregon Geographic Names that Indian Valley is now called Elgin,
although Indian Valley PO was actually two or three miles above
Elgin.<BR><BR>Les C.<BR><BR>
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<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Name </FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Relation</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT color=#dbdbc8>Marital
Status</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Gender</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Race</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Age</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Birthplace</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Occupation</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Father's Birthplace</FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#336699><FONT
color=#dbdbc8>Mother's Birthplace</FONT></TD></TR>
<TR bgColor=#ffffff>
<TD> <A
href="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_4483367_0&frompage=5">Joseph
CUMMINGS</A> </TD>
<TD align=left> Self </TD>
<TD align=left> M </TD>
<TD align=left> Male </TD>
<TD align=left> W </TD>
<TD align=middle> 37 </TD>
<TD align=left> TN </TD>
<TD align=left> Farmer </TD>
<TD align=left> --- </TD>
<TD align=left> --- </TD></TR>
<TR bgColor=#efefe7>
<TD> <A
href="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_4483367_1&frompage=5">Elizabeth
CUMMINGS</A> </TD>
<TD align=left> Wife </TD>
<TD align=left> M </TD>
<TD align=left> Female </TD>
<TD align=left> W </TD>
<TD align=middle> 36 </TD>
<TD align=left> TN </TD>
<TD align=left> Keeping House </TD>
<TD align=left> --- </TD>
<TD align=left> NC </TD></TR>
<TR bgColor=#ffffff>
<TD> <A
href="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_4483367_2&frompage=5">Josiah
CUMMINGS</A> </TD>
<TD align=left> Son </TD>
<TD align=left> S </TD>
<TD align=left> Male </TD>
<TD align=left> W </TD>
<TD align=middle> 13 </TD>
<TD align=left> AR </TD>
<TD align=left> At Home </TD>
<TD align=left> TN </TD>
<TD align=left> TN </TD></TR>
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<TD> <A
href="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_4483367_3&frompage=5">Thomas
J. CUMMINGS</A> </TD>
<TD align=left> Son </TD>
<TD align=left> S </TD>
<TD align=left> Male </TD>
<TD align=left> W </TD>
<TD align=middle> 10 </TD>
<TD align=left> AR </TD>
<TD align=left> At Home </TD>
<TD align=left> TN </TD>
<TD align=left> TN </TD></TR>
<TR bgColor=#ffffff>
<TD> <A
href="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_4483367_4&frompage=5">Martha
M. CUMMINGS</A> </TD>
<TD align=left> Dau </TD>
<TD align=left> S </TD>
<TD align=left> Female </TD>
<TD align=left> W </TD>
<TD align=middle> 4 </TD>
<TD align=left> AR </TD>
<TD align=left> </TD>
<TD align=left> TN </TD>
<TD align=left> TN </TD></TR>
<TR bgColor=#efefe7>
<TD> <A
href="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_4483367_5&frompage=5">Gardner
M. CUMMINGS</A> </TD>
<TD align=left> Son </TD>
<TD align=left> S </TD>
<TD align=left> Male </TD>
<TD align=left> W </TD>
<TD align=middle> 2 </TD>
<TD align=left> AR </TD>
<TD align=left> </TD>
<TD align=left> TN </TD>
<TD align=left> TN </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><SPAN
class=individualLabel><FONT size=+1>Source Information:</FONT></SPAN><BR>
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<TR>
<TD 10??> </TD>
<TD vAlign=top><B>Census Place</B></TD>
<TD vAlign=top>Indian Valley, Union, Oregon</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD width=10> </TD>
<TD vAlign=top><B>Family History Library Film</B> </TD>
<TD vAlign=top><A
href="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=filmhitlist&columns=*%2C180%2C0&filmno=1255084"
target=_parent>1255084</A></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD width=10> </TD>
<TD vAlign=top><B>NA Film Number</B> </TD>
<TD vAlign=top>T9-1084</TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD width=10> </TD>
<TD vAlign=top><B>Page Number</B> </TD>
<TD vAlign=top><A
href="javascript:imageWindow=open('1880USCensusCost.asp','imageRecord','menubar=yes,toolbar=yes,status=yes,resizable=yes,width=600,height=440');imageWindow=open('http://www.ancestry.com/FamilySearch/?nara=T9-1084&pgno=165B&irecid=1880US_4483367_0','imageRecord','menubar=yes,toolbar=yes,status=yes,resizable=yes,width=600,height=440');imageWindow.focus();">165B</A>
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR><BR><BR><BR>-----Original
Message-----<BR>From: Jim Cummings<BR>Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 2:22
PM<BR>Subject: RE: [or-roots] Joseph and Elizabeth Cummings<BR><BR><BR>Boy
sometimes I think my brain in my hip pocket. My gggrandfather's name was Joseph
Cummings and gggrandmother's name was Elizabeth Tucker Cummings, he was 37 and
she was 36. Sorry about the mishap. Jim<BR><BR>-----Original
Message-----<BR>From: barbhg1221@comcast.net<BR>Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004
10:23 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [or-roots] Joseph and Elizabeth
Cummings<BR><BR>Jim,<BR>Could you clarify the names of your gg grandparents that
you are looking for in Oregon? Thank you.<BR>Barbara
Herring<BR>-------------- Original message --------------<BR><BR>> My name is
James H. Cummings and I am trying to locate my gggrandfather and<BR>> mother.
The last trace I have of them is in the 1880 census of Indian Valley<BR>>
Township Union county OR. They came form AR in 1878 with a family of
Tuckers<BR>> and a few more but I only know of the Tuckers. Part of the
family came back<BR>> to AR, my ggrandfather Josiah and his brother Gardner.
After that nothing.<BR>> Gardner was named after Gardner Rains Tucker who
stayed in OR. Any help on<BR>> my long lost kin would greatly be appreciated.
Thank you and Happy hunting<BR>> Jim. </P></BODY></HTML>