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Pat, if this goes on much longer, I too will have to unsubscribe. I hate
the thought of this because I consider many of you to be kindred hearts
and friends. I think we have some real dogs on this list--some real lunatics.
I recently posted my Dobbie material, in hopes of getting folks back on
the subject of genealogy. That didn't work, and I am terribly disappointed.
It was like pulling teeth to garnish what I did get, and I know there are
those of you in Southern Oregon who have something to offer on this subject.
Here is what I believe: Kevin and Shirlee are a sham. Most likely, kids
having fun and pranking their elders. We blindly took it seriously. There
is, to date, no obit to prove there was a Kevin in Bend and he died mowing
the lawn. Come Friday, if there is no obit to prove his reality, what then
will folks on this list think? How about "foolish" for openers?
<p>Kith-n-Kin wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE> <span class=879312622-02082004><font color="#0000FF"><font size=-1>You
know, I was going to be quiet about this, but enough is enough, Nancy.
And, no more private e-mails to you.</font></font></span><span class=879312622-02082004></span><span class=879312622-02082004><font color="#0000FF"><font size=-1>(1)
I wrote to Kevin twice (personally) and nicely the first time, by the way,
to tell him what the problem was and that *he* would have to follow the
instructions to get off the list. The result of that was an e-mail to my
e-ddress, (not to the list), with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and a copy
of someone else's e-mail in the body. He never responded to me personally.
I suggest that several people got that type of response, but others got
some real trash talk from him.</font></font></span><span class=879312622-02082004></span><span class=879312622-02082004><font color="#0000FF"><font size=-1>(2)
After we got the well crafted death notice, and Nancy wrote the vitriol
to the list, I wrote her and told her what *I* had done, and she sent back
an unbelievably rude reply, just because I asked her if she (the only one
with a good relationship with Kevin) had also tried to help him. She also
copied me a perfectly rational e-mail he had sent her. None of the dis-jointed
messages some got from him.</font></font></span><span class=879312622-02082004><font color="#0000FF"><font size=-1>(3)
Several of us have tried to placate the rest, with insults from Nancy at
every turn.</font></font></span><span class=879312622-02082004><font color="#0000FF"><font size=-1>(4)
Now, Nancy, if you are going to "shame" Viola, ("I never said, that anyone
of you killed Kevin") please read your reply to someone earlier this
week:</font></font></span><span class=879312622-02082004></span><span class=879312622-02082004>
<div dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><span
class=879312622-02082004><font size=-1>"</span>It's
too bad, you didn't think of this first to write to tell people about,
loving kindness, while Kevin was with us!</font></div>
<div dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><font size=-1>Now it's too late
to be kind to him. {Only to Shirlee} Some of the or-roots members
really stressed him out. He was trying very hard to unsubscribe, but some..
just made fun of him... some were cruel and rude. He told me that himself.
They just wouldn't back off and let him unsubscribe, he was stressed
out and Stress can kill..<span class=879312622-02082004>"</font></span></div>
<div dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i> </div>
<div dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><span class=879312622-02082004><font color="#0000FF"><font size=-1>Now,
admittedly, you didn't accuse anyone of taking out a gun, but I'm sorry,
where I come from, the above *is* an accusation. </font></font></span></div>
<div dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><span class=879312622-02082004></span></div>
<div dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><span class=879312622-02082004><font color="#0000FF"><font size=-1>"They
wouldn't back off and let him unsubscribe. . " excuse me, but not only
did some of us try to help, frankly there is nothing any of us could do,
including you, apparently, to either help or hinder his getting off the
list by "backing off".</font></font></span></div>
<div dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><span class=879312622-02082004></span></div>
<div dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><span class=879312622-02082004><font color="#0000FF"><font size=-1>Now,
I'm one who thinks that this was an unfortunate turn of events, and since
the behavior was apparently uncharacteristic (but how would we know that?),
we can put it down to his medical condition.</font></font></span></div>
<div dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><span class=879312622-02082004></span></div>
<div dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><span class=879312622-02082004><font color="#0000FF"><font size=-1>Assuming
that none of the rest of us have a similar medical condition, perhaps we,
including you, Nancy, can just close this out?</font></font></span></div>
<div dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><span class=879312622-02082004></span></div>
<div dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><span class=879312622-02082004><font color="#0000FF"><font size=-1>Pat
(in Tucson)</font></font></span></div>
<div dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><span class=879312622-02082004></span></div>
<div dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><span class=879312622-02082004><font color="#0000FF"><font size=-1>P.S.
Please note the *lack* of earlier messages in this thread. *That* my dears,
is protocol for e-mails to lists. You don't copy and copy and copy, you
just excerpt the part that is germane to the subject. So, yes, Nancy, you
can expect not to have all the message, and the message before, and the
message before that. . . (I think there were five messages in this
before Nancy reminded me and I cut them out.)</font></font></span></div>
<div dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><span class=879312622-02082004></span></div>
<div dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><span class=879312622-02082004><font color="#0000FF"><font size=-1>P</font></font></span></div>
</span><span class=879312622-02082004></span><span id=IncrediStamp><span dir=ltr></span></span></blockquote>
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