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<DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>Bob Goodman <BR>USAF Retired <BR>University Place, Washington</DIV><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR><BR>> Hi listmates, <BR>> <BR>> We cannot undo what has happened in the passed few days. But, what we <BR>> can do, is to be kind <BR>> to one another. Some of us, including myself, emailed Kevin. I tried to <BR>> be nice to him, and was not <BR>> rude, just like I haven't been rude to anyone else here, yet. <BR>> But, you know we are all supposed to be responsible mature adults here. <BR>> This is a genealogy list, and as such, <BR>> devoted to research out our antecedents. But, with all of the bickering <BR>> going on here, it is more like the WWE. <BR>> Now, I think all of you who are fighting like little children, need to go <BR>> and stand in your respective corners, and <BR>> stay there until you think about all of the unkindness and unhappiness <BR>> you are causing each other and the rest of us. <BR>> And when you have reached a sound mature decision, and I am hoping you <BR>> come to the conclusion that no one is <BR>> right, and you are genuinely sorry for hurting each other, then you can <BR>> come out of your corners, shake hands and say <BR>> you are sorry. <BR>> If you don't do this, I am afraid I am going to have to send you to the <BR>> principal's office for an old fashioned whupping. <BR>> That is what this is coming to. <BR>> I am in a humerous way, trying to get you guys to settle down. Everyone <BR>> on this list, with the exception of the ones that <BR>> have remained neutral, is as equally guilty of saying things to Kevin. <BR>> BUT, we cannot change nor undo what has been said. <BR>> What we all can do, is to APOLOGIZE to each other, and I mean right now, <BR>> and come out of this as friends as before. <BR>> We all are feeling badly about what happened to Kevin. Now, we can't <BR>> change that fact, that he is gone. But, we can <BR>> be a little kinder to each other, and maybe, in the process of thinking <BR>> rationally about this situation, we could try to be kinder <BR>> to his widow. She doesn't deserve the tongue lashing that is going on <BR>> here, and neither do the rest of us. <BR>> So, wise up, and grow up. OK? When the list mom gets back from where <BR>> ever she went, she is probably going to be very <BR>> disappointed in all of us for the way we handled this situation. <BR>> So, let's give poor Kevin a chance to rest in piece, and we need to start <BR>> delving into the past ages, to find our elusive <BR>> relatives. <BR>> Speaking of which, I have a story to tell. My birth name is Karla Gray, <BR>> and I was born in The Dalles Oregon to Marion <BR>> Frederick Gray, and Jessie Marie Yohey Gray, in December of 1946. My <BR>> father was born in Friend Oregon to Jesse Marion <BR>> Gray, and Emma Freda Gertrude Miller Gray on September 1, 1920. My <BR>> grandfather was born in Friend or The Dalles, on January 18 <BR>> , I think the year was 1883 or so, to James Jackson Gray, and Susan <BR>> Permelier Gray (her maiden name just flew out of my mind). <BR>> James Jackson Gray was born in or near Nashville Tennessee, in 1843 or <BR>> so. <BR>> The story goes this way: James Jackson was around 15-17 years old when <BR>> the Civil War broke out. His father was a school <BR>> teacher, and also owned a race horse farm. Just prior to the break out of <BR>> the Civil War, the father had purchased a stud for $1,000.00, <BR>> which was a considerable sum back then. When the War broke out, the <BR>> father and older brothers decided to go off to war, leaving <BR>> young James Jackson at home in charge of the horse farm. They joined the <BR>> Federalist forces. <BR>> But, James Jackson was young, and as such, evidentally prone to being <BR>> hotheaded (which decidedly runs in the family), was <BR>> quite put out that the father and brothers had gone off to war, leaving <BR>> him at home. So, he decided to leave also. He took the <BR>> stud and off he went. He joined the first army outfit he came to, which <BR>> unfortunately, was the Confederate Army. The horse <BR>> was shot and killed in an ensuing battle. <BR>> James Jackson served his 4 years of service duty and was duly discharged <BR>> from the Army. He was relunctant to go back home, <BR>> so lit out to come west. He worked his way out here, hoping to recoop <BR>> enough money to repay his father for the stud that had been <BR>> killed. <BR>> Well, I guess he never was able to get the money together. He came to <BR>> Oregon, somewhere along the line, met up with my great <BR>> grandmother, and made her his wife. They had 10 kids. <BR>> Now, James Jackson was a very tight lipped individual. Never, never, <BR>> ever, did he tell his children, or grandchildren any information <BR>> about the family he left in Tennessee. So, all we know is what I just <BR>> told you. There have been several individuals in the family, and one <BR>> on my mother's side, doing lots of research, trying to find anything on <BR>> the family he left behind. <BR>> Outside of going back to Tennessee, and doing research back there, what <BR>> are we to do? My niece wrote for and got his Army <BR>> records and he told them he was James Jackson Gray. But, I am beginning <BR>> to think, the old rascal was a scoundrel and a consumate <BR>> liar. I don't think his surname was Gray. I don't know what else to <BR>> think. We have all hit a brickwall. <BR>> Do, any of you have any suggestions? I have researched out the Census I <BR>> think for 1880 or 1890, and found them. At that time, <BR>> it was just his wife and 9 months old baby daughter, Louisa. They had <BR>> had an earlier child, but that baby died from diptheria before <BR>> reaching a year old. <BR>> So, if any of you people, who have a more vast knowledge than I have, <BR>> have any kind of suggestions, I would appreciate you bouncing <BR>> them off of me. For now, I just want to make this one statement, I don't <BR>> have the time nor the money to make a trip to Tennessee. So, <BR>> that option is closed at this time. <BR>> Thank you so much for letting me say my piece. I just want peace and <BR>> harmony to reign again here, and want everyone to be friends. <BR>> So, please, peace, peace everyone. Thank you so much. <BR>> <BR>> Sincerely, <BR>> <BR>> Karla Williams <BR>> karfranw@juno.com <BR>> _______________________________________________ <BR>> or-roots mailing list <BR>> or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us <BR>> http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>