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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>frances, we have a hit. u./g. shaver i did
not know but i knew hazel quite well. when she found out i was a
genealogist she wanted me to find her mother. hazel was in her 90s at the
time. nettie was my grandmothers sister, and while they lived very close,
i don't remember my g.m. ever speaking of her. hazels mother who was flora
miranda bonney hutchinson abandoned her first family of david isom hutchinson
and herself and married his brother who was a good deal younger that she
was. i have a copy of flora and miranda bonney's divorce and i have both
their death certificates. david was buried in a cem. behind wash. square
but no stone so that is not good. after flora divorced him for his brother
william amer hutchinson, none of the first four of her children would even speak
to her. her and william had two children, and i am in contact with the gr.
grandaughter of one of them. as i lam sure you know the vhalos family had
extensive holdings on the river bottom there. the protocol on this sight,
i think, is HAVE A GOOD TIME but supposedly no flaming. hazel had two sons
i believe. which one do you descend from. the valhos had a store up
near what was then called portland state univ. although my aunt and i went
in the store and introduced ourselves, hazel didn't remember it. do you
happen to know where hazel is buried. i need pics of both hazel and
clifford's gravestones. i collect them on the family. pretty
gruesome i know but what the heck. i have a pic of hazel and one of her
sons that showed up about the same time my aunt and i did. there seems too
be an assumption in that family that nettie ran away with some guy and both of
them were killed in the great fire in san fran. i don't think anyone knows
for sure but hazel said she never heard from her mother after she left and
neither did anyone else in the family. the two kids that flora had with
her second hutchinson husband were netties first cousins and also her half
brother and sister. what a mess.as far as flora's first husband david
goes, he had cancer in the late 1800s and since they didn't know much about
cancer they put him in the chicken coop out back and took meals to him and just
put them on the stoop. i have a feeling he died a horrible death. i
have a large 8 1/2 x 11 pic of david and william's father quite a few of aunt
lydia who was the girl from flora and williams marriage. they also had a
boy but he is very elusive. i can't find your e-mail address but would
love to have it. if i can help, just let me know. i would also enjoy
your lineage from hazel down. thanks for writing. i am ill with
diabetes and cancer but i still get along. if i were you, i wouldn't wait
too long. what city do you live in and state. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>cousin gary in sun city, az.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=Frances_Vlahos-Rohm@ci.juneau.ak.us
href="mailto:Frances_Vlahos-Rohm@ci.juneau.ak.us">Frances Vlahos-Rohm</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us
href="mailto:'or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us'">'or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us'</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 27, 2005 8:32 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [or-roots] Conversations
<G>dam M.</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi, I had tried to
respond to your search for info on Ulysses Shaver, but it was held up by the
administrator as I wasn't a member. I am curious about your interest. U.G.
Shaver was my great grandfather on my fathers side. Hazel Frances Shaver, my
maternal grandmother. I have heard stories about Nettie leaving them when
Hazel was about 8 years old and Clifford a little younger. I sent another
email with information but I don't know if you got it. Im also unsure of
protocol on this site...seems a little unusual.
Thanks<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Gary
Murray [mailto:gmurray1@cox.net] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, May 27, 2005 7:18
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> OREGON
LIST<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [or-roots]
Conversations <G>dam M.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">DAN: I
CAN ALSO Be a little abrasive b ut i just blame
everything on the meds. just got another 11 e-mails and most of them are
on the "first time user". in the future i promise to use the delete key
more frequently since i have no idea what the original message was
about. thanks for the post. am afraid i have to send this to the
list since you didn't put down your e-mail address. SORRY
FOLKS.</SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Courier New" color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> in
az.</SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Courier New" color=black><SPAN
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title=wb@valiant.wvi.com href="mailto:wb@valiant.wvi.com">DanM</A>
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, May 27, 2005 8:07
AM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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