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<DIV>I recall reading somewhere that the OR. legislature about 1880 passed a
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<DIV>law requirng vital statistics to be reported to one cenrtal agency, but
that</DIV>
<DIV>it was not until about 1930 that most counties finally complies. My
gr.</DIV>
<DIV>grandfather died in 1905, and it was not until we obtained his
pension</DIV>
<DIV>records that we were able to ascterain his actual date of death. But
we</DIV>
<DIV>do not know where - he lived in Bayview and is buried in the Union </DIV>
<DIV>Cemetery, Cedar Mill, many miles away. No death certificate,
funeral</DIV>
<DIV>record or news item.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>You might want to check the archives now, since on line they have
been</DIV>
<DIV>setting forth delayed vital records.</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=dharguess@coastline.edu
href="mailto:dharguess@coastline.edu">Harguess, Dale</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us
href="mailto:or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us">or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 27, 2005 8:39
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [or-roots] Another Hardwick
genealogist</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks, I am of the
opinion that they just didn’t have death records in </SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Oregon</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> that early. My
great great grandfather died there in 1909 and there is no record of his
death. I do have a copy of his will though and that is priceless in the
way he distributed his property and money. It really tells a lot about
his relationships with his children.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Dale</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
or-roots-admin@sosinet.sos.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-admin@sosinet.sos.state.or.us] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Leslie Chapman<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, September 26, 2005 6:40
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [or-roots] Another Hardwick
genealogist</SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Dale;<BR><BR>I too
tried Oregon state archives for Verna and her mother and father and came up
null, there are some Hardwicks in the index, but no amount of twisting around
of the names you have would arrive at anything like them except one Maud A
married to some Culver and a Lu Verne Althea that appears there three or four
times. For future reference the search link is;<BR><BR><A
href="http://genealogy.state.or.us/start.lasso?location=search"
target=_blank>http://genealogy.state.or.us/start.lasso?location=search</A><BR><BR>and
at the bottom of the page are some links that will take you to pages that will
tell you how to order stuff and so forth.<BR><BR>now to the other genealogist,
I googled you mystery kin and found the following fellow;<BR><BR>Raleigh E.
Emry<BR>12602 Scissortail Drive<BR>Manchaca, Texas 78652<BR>(512)
282-9269<BR><BR>who seems to be citing the person that was already mentioned
as having info;<BR><BR>59. Lee, Bernadine, 1910 N.E. Weidler, Portland, Oregon
97232. Series of Family Group Sheets in files of Joseph Philip Barnes. The
source is presumed to be: Bernadine Lee, 1910 N.E. Weidler, Portland, Oregon
97232.<BR><BR>Okay after much consternation I determined that this Lee is not
the other person who Sue found for you, so now you have two more leads to
share information with. I will paste in the page with Verna on it in a minute,
after i convert this to html.<BR><BR>Oh, your comment was correct too, most
folks think we chat too much, but as some folks have said, much of that chat
is valid in that it fills in blanks, and it also ocasionally inspires some
timid soul to venture a query where in a more "formal" list they might be
afraid to.<BR><BR>Les C</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><A name=P2574></A><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">527. <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><A
href="http://www.familyorigins.com/users/e/m/r/Raleigh-E-Emry/FAMO2-0001/d2561.htm#P2574">Venus
Howell</A></SPAN></B> <SUP><A
href="http://www.familyorigins.com/users/e/m/r/Raleigh-E-Emry/FAMO2-0001/fowsrc.htm#59">(59)</A></SUP>.
Flags: Foreign Born=N </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><A name=P2580></A><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Venus Howell and Noah Hardwick had the
following children: <BR><BR><IMG height=34 alt=child
src="http://www.familyorigins.com/users/e/m/r/Raleigh-E-Emry/FAMO2-0001/bullet.gif"
width=45 align=bottom border=0>1181 i. <A name=P2597></A><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Verna Marie Hardwick</SPAN></B><SUP><A
href="http://www.familyorigins.com/users/e/m/r/Raleigh-E-Emry/FAMO2-0001/fowsrc.htm#59">(59)</A></SUP>
died in Dec. </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><A name=P2581></A><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Venus Howell and Selden Flynn had the
following children: <BR><BR><IMG height=34 alt=child
src="http://www.familyorigins.com/users/e/m/r/Raleigh-E-Emry/FAMO2-0001/bullet.gif"
width=45 align=bottom border=0>+1182 i. <A name=P2598></A><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><A
href="http://www.familyorigins.com/users/e/m/r/Raleigh-E-Emry/FAMO2-0001/d2598.htm#P2598">Clifford
Flynn.</A></SPAN></B> <BR><IMG height=34 alt=child
src="http://www.familyorigins.com/users/e/m/r/Raleigh-E-Emry/FAMO2-0001/bullet.gif"
width=45 align=bottom border=0>+1183 ii. <A name=P2599></A><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><A
href="http://www.familyorigins.com/users/e/m/r/Raleigh-E-Emry/FAMO2-0001/d2599.htm#P2599">Katherine
Flynn.</A></SPAN></B> <BR><IMG height=34 alt=child
src="http://www.familyorigins.com/users/e/m/r/Raleigh-E-Emry/FAMO2-0001/bullet.gif"
width=45 align=bottom border=0>+1184 iii. <A name=P2600></A><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><A
href="http://www.familyorigins.com/users/e/m/r/Raleigh-E-Emry/FAMO2-0001/d2600.htm#P2600">Genevieve
Flynn.</A></SPAN></B> <BR><IMG height=34 alt=child
src="http://www.familyorigins.com/users/e/m/r/Raleigh-E-Emry/FAMO2-0001/bullet.gif"
width=45 align=bottom border=0>+1185 iv. <A name=P2601></A><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><A
href="http://www.familyorigins.com/users/e/m/r/Raleigh-E-Emry/FAMO2-0001/d2601.htm#P2601">Selda
Flynn.</A></SPAN></B> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><A name=P2582></A><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Venus Howell and J. Ernest Chedare had
the following children: <BR><BR><IMG height=34 alt=child
src="http://www.familyorigins.com/users/e/m/r/Raleigh-E-Emry/FAMO2-0001/bullet.gif"
width=45 align=bottom border=0>1186 i. <A name=P2606></A><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Ruth Chedare</SPAN></B><SUP><A
href="http://www.familyorigins.com/users/e/m/r/Raleigh-E-Emry/FAMO2-0001/fowsrc.htm#59">(59)</A></SUP>
died in Dec.<BR><BR><BR>I will try to do a query and I hope someone out there
can help me. I am trying to find a death record for a child named Verna
Marie Hardwick. I think she died sometime between 1915 and 1919.
She was the child of Noah Hardwick and Versey Venus Howell. She was born
Sept. 11, 1914 in Oregon, but I don’t know where. I also would like to
have an actual record of her birth as this date was given to me by a volunteer
at the Blue Mountain Genealogical Society and she didn’t tell me where she got
it..<BR>Dale in California </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>