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<DIV><SPAN class=250055321-04122005><FONT color=#0000ff>Last year I had to have
extra certified copies of the birth and death certificates of my parents,
siblings, and grandparents -- to prove relationships in a "downwinder"
case.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=250055321-04122005><FONT
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=250055321-04122005><FONT color=#0000ff>I called Vital Records
in Oregon, gave her the info I needed, my address, and a credit card number --
no problem, and I didn't have to "prove" anything. For Idaho, I had to send a
copy of my identification, via fax. For Arizona, and only for death
certificates, I had to make a personal appearance (well, probably not, but it
was easier), provide them with the documents I got from Oregon and Idaho, fill
out a bunch of forms, show them identification, and sign an
affidavit!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=250055321-04122005><FONT
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=250055321-04122005><FONT color=#0000ff>The person behind the
desk was mightily surprised when I told her the story -- and mentioned that you
could get most of this information (the deaths, anyway) from
SSDI.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=250055321-04122005><FONT
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=250055321-04122005><FONT color=#0000ff>I think some legislators
went overboard over this "identity theft", without doing their
homework.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=250055321-04122005><FONT
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=250055321-04122005><FONT color=#0000ff>Anyway, I think that any
births that can be found on the census, and deaths that can be found in the
obituaries, especially those a few years old, should be readily
available.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=250055321-04122005><FONT
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=250055321-04122005><FONT color=#0000ff>Now, when *I* am dead
and gone, and want my death certificate to show St. Peter, I hope no one will
give me that much grief <G></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=250055321-04122005><FONT
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=250055321-04122005><FONT color=#0000ff>Pat (in
Tucson)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=250055321-04122005><FONT
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
or-roots-admin@sosinet.sos.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-admin@sosinet.sos.state.or.us] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>CKlooster@aol.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 04, 2005
14:12<BR><B>To:</B> or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[or-roots] Oregon birth records<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT id=role_document
face=Arial color=#000000>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV><EM>"As to the death certs; after 1954 you have to be the person, or have
a legal<BR>connection to that person that entitles you to the
information."</EM></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Les, I couldn't let this pass because it gave me my first chuckle of the
day...making me wonder how many dead people apply for their own death
certificates.....!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>On the serious side, I know what you mean and it can be frustrating because
"direct relationship" and "need to know" are pretty subjective and they appear
to depend on the opinion and good graces of whichever employee you happen to
encounter. Frankly, I've always felt that a citizen's right to privacy
ends with death (in more ways than one) and that if there are relatives who are
embarassed because Grandpa died of complications of alcoholism they need to get
over it. But that's just my opinion...</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Carla</DIV></FONT></BODY></HTML>