<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2802" name=GENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>all you can do is to suggest. there is a
distant cousin of mine that has the bonney gene. on the internet. he
descends from one of jarius' brothers. he has my line on the website but
it is all wrong. i offered to help him correct it but his response was
less than great. i offered, was rejected, and now its his problem. i
can always tell when someone copied his info and i go in and tell them where the
errors are. once again, i want to help and some will respond and some
won't. all i can do is offer.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>gary in az.</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr
style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=karthomas@worldnet.att.net
href="mailto:karthomas@worldnet.att.net">karen thomas</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us
href="mailto:or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us">or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:13
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [or-roots] Brickwalls
redux</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yes, I think the information should be shared but
my complaint comes when people refuse</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>to correct information that is wrong
even when you send them records showing they are</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>wrong. (Especially when its a direct
ancestor of mine.)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Karen</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr
style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=glenkc7mbm@comcast.net
href="mailto:glenkc7mbm@comcast.net">glenkc7mbm@comcast.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us
href="mailto:or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us">or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:38
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [or-roots] Brickwalls
redux</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Gary</DIV>
<DIV>Amen to the sharing, I had to delete my Family Tree website as a
relative that I did not have contact with or know how to contact, objected
to her side of the family being on my website.</DIV>
<DIV>Glen</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>Glen A. Jones</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">--------------
Original message -------------- <BR>From: "Gary Murray" <<A
href="mailto:gmurray1@cox.net">gmurray1@cox.net</A>> <BR><BR>> i am
one of the fortunate ones. my hutchinson line was a brick wall for
<BR>> about 25 yrs. then out of the b lue 3 very nice ladies filled me
in on this <BR>> line. now this was a line that a distant cousin of
mine had all the time. <BR>> he lived in seattle. he would not share
anything. i am such a believer in <BR>> sharing everything that i have.
i sent a lady most all of my bonney line <BR>> back to adam and eve and
she either gave it or sold it to ancestry.com. all <BR>> of a sudden it
was all over the internet. i just didn't care. if she <BR>> gleaned all
there was for her out of it then to me it was worth it. i have <BR>>
spent hundreds of dollars to see if i could get my data and all the pics i
<BR>> have out to anyone that wanted them. i will cont inue to do so.
my <BR>> hutchinson line went back to elijah dow hutchinson and his
birth in 1824 in <BR>> ohio. that is all i had and now thanks to those
ladies i have a ton of data <BR>> and charts and a little of
everything. i have been in az. 4 years and i <BR>> hope to return to
oregon this year where i can continue to research and give <BR>> my
time. i personally would like to see everyone do this about once a year.
<BR>> if each person finds one male in their line and only half find
wives w/ <BR>> maiden names, just stop and think how many of us that
would benefit. i have <BR>> every child of jarius and dr. truman
bonney. on dr. truman that is as far <BR>> as i cared to go since it is
jarius who is my direct. these people had <BR>> 12-14 children and most
of them married. same goes for elijah d. <BR>> hutchinson. i do
remember the stories on most of these people but i turned <BR>> down
thousands of pics because they were not my direc t line. i have always
<BR>> felt that more people need to "share" rather than worry about
giving away <BR>> their hard work. [just my personal opinion] at the
moment my gene. program <BR>> will not allow me to copy anything to
paper or disk. but when its fixed, <BR>> after i move, then all are
welcome to anything i have. i have found a <BR>> copying place that
will do the pics. all i have ever asked is that i am <BR>> paid for my
outlay of cash. soma do and soma don't. <BR>> gary in az. <BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>>
From: "Leslie Chapman" <REEDSPORTCHAPMANS@VERIZON.NET><BR>> To:
<OR-ROOTS@SOSINET.SOS.STATE.OR.US><BR>> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006
12:44 PM <BR>> Subject: [or-roots] Brickwalls redux <BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> >I can understand your frustration Karla, but just let me give
you an <BR>> >example <BR>> > of why mosts lists like to do
this little thing, even though it drives a <BR>> > lot <BR>> >
of folks nuts who have signed up, often without realizing they have
<BR>> > volunteered to recieve unspecified quantities of email from
total <BR>> > strangers <BR>> > [and boy are some of us
strange] in their inbox. <BR>> > <BR>> > Mosts lists call it
simply "Roll Call" the Wheeler list which is another <BR>> > list I
am on that has historically been very active though has been slow <BR>>
> of <BR>> > late, as much as a week going by without a post, as
opposed to my Pierce <BR>> > list which was dissolved because the
host refused to allot space to a list <BR>> > that only got a post
every year or two. <BR>> > <BR>> > My point is that there may
be a Newbie out there who is sitting on their <BR>> > grand-dad's
diary that they just happened to look at last week again and <BR>> >
wondered who the heck all of thos John Smiths were in Podunk that came to
<B R>> > Boring with grandpa, now if it happens to be John smith,
John Smith Jr. <BR>> > and <BR>> > John Smith the third from
Podunk that moved to Boring with "your grandpa" <BR>> > and you
posted that question last year and Mr Newbie isn't curious enough <BR>>
> about these folks to do a google or whatever on them, the two of you
might <BR>> > not connect, but if Mr Newbie has been lurking here
for the last three <BR>> > months and you repost your John Smiths
and the name resonate with him <BR>> > enough <BR>> > for him
to dig out the diary and reread it, you might have the proverbial <BR>>
> "Gold Mine" <BR>> > <BR>> > My personal brick wall is who
was the Mrs Barnes that nursed my great <BR>> > grandfather Milan
Morell Melvin through an epidemic on the Wagon Train to <BR>> >
Wherever the heck they first came to (first inof we have hard knowedge is
<BR>> > thier residing in Del Norte Co Cal, but no wagon train
terminus near <BR>> > there??) <BR>> > <BR>> > But back
to my story [now you can see why every tiime I open my mouth at <BR>>
> family gatherings somebody stuffs my foot in it] <BR>> > I came
on here a year or two ago in answer to a similar complaint about <BR>>
> why <BR>> > repost and I threw out one of my dead ends by
example, just like the above <BR>> > Mrs Barnes story and one of the
people on the list googled my question and <BR>> > there was my
answer. Of course I could have gotten that one myself, but I <BR>> >
had Googled and dogpiled and ship listed and etc the same problem for
<BR>> > hours <BR>> > and hours over a period of years and
come up blank. <BR>> > <BR>> > This of course isn't the best
example of why we should have a "roll call" <BR>> > now and then,
but I think you can see my point, I was totally frustrated <BR>> >
with that particular fact, had in fact given up on it over a year before
<BR>> > and <BR>> > just threw it out there as an example of
how frustrating some things can <BR>> > be <BR>> > and was
kindly handed a large helping of crow so to speak. <BR>> > <BR>>
> So by all means, repost that question, the other thing you have to
<BR>> > consider <BR>> > is that some of us have resources
that we are either too busy or too lazy <BR>> > to <BR>> > use
except on whim, and maybe all of us missed you previous post, or were
<BR>> > too busy, but maybe you can catch us with free time, which
it looks like I <BR>> > have a lot of but actually don't because
wifey has been hovering in the <BR>> > background wiht a list of
honeydos since I got on here this morning, but <BR>> > if <BR>>
> you post it, I promise within a week I will take a stab at it.
<BR>> > <BR>> > Les C <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>>
> ; -----Original Message----- <BR>> > From:
or-roots-admin@sosinet.sos.state.or.us <BR>> >
[mailto:or-roots-admin@sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of <BR>> >
karfranw@juno.com <BR>> > Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 9:28 AM
<BR>> > To: or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us <BR>> > Subject:
Re: [or-roots] OREGON ONLY NAMES AND BRICK WALLS <BR>> > <BR>>
> <BR>> > Hello, the above idea, is all well and good, I agree.
But, some members <BR>> > of <BR>> > my family have already
done research on the family name, and have hit <BR>> > brickwalls no
matter where they search. And as far as when this errant <BR>> >
antecedent of ours reached Oregon, it is anyone's guess. I could tell you
<BR>> > the story but already submitted that when I first subscribed
to this <BR>> > list. <BR>> > My brothers and I have come to a
conclusion, the old guy was lying through <BR>> > his teeth about
<BR>> &g t; his name, because of circumstances. We don't have a
clue as to what to do <BR>> > now. <BR>> > <BR>> >
Sincerely, <BR>> > <BR>> > Karla (Gray) Williams <BR>> >
<BR>> > <BR>> >
_______________________________________________ <BR>> > or-roots
mailing list <BR>> > or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us <BR>> >
http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots <BR>> <BR>>
_______________________________________________ <BR>> or-roots mailing
list <BR>> or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us <BR>>
http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots
</BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></B></BODY></HTML>