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<DIV>If you have not checked, sometimes a delayed birth certificate is filed, and would be done in whatever state the person was living in at the time and it could be many years after the person's birth, My father was born in 1883 but a birth certificate was not filed until 20 years later.</DIV>
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<DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>Glen A. Jones</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=565135114-22032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>I also have a g.grandfather that died in 1908 and no record of his death. I have had to use other means and life would have been so simple for me if that death record had been forwarded over to one central office.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> or-roots-admin@sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin@sosinet.sos.state.or.us]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Eugene V. Barnes<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 21, 2006 6:37 PM<BR><B>To:</B> or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [or-roots] timber in Whitman County WA<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Oregon, I understand passed a law in the 1880s requiring counties to forward vital stats to one central office.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>By about 1930 most counties had started to comply. I have a grandfather who died and there is NO record</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>of his death in 1905 , and we had a grand child of his with no date of birth or death crca about 1904, and</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>my father born in 1906 had no birth certificate. His sister born in MInn had to make a ceclaration in </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>1942 as to his birth. So if you can't find some one in Oregon, the above is one reason.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The Archives do now have on line late birth and other late reported events.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=dharguess@coastline.edu href="mailto:dharguess@coastline.edu">Harguess, Dale</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us href="mailto:or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us">or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:41 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [or-roots] timber in Whitman County WA</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Have to pop in here. I have been searching for my great grandfather for years. I didn’t know if he died or what, I only knew that he and his wife divorced and she remarried. They were both born in </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Oregon</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> and my grandmother was too. It never occurred to me to look in </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Washington</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">. Can you believe that I found him with a new wife living in Whitman in the 1910 census and on top of that I found my grandmother’s first husband also living in Whitman in the same census. Now if I could just find out what happened to him after that. He just disappears.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">His name was Thomas Howell and he too had remarried a woman who had a daughter. I don’t know where they got married but the census said they had been married either 3 or 4 years, I can’t remember.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Dale</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> or-roots-admin@sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin@sosinet.sos.state.or.us] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Kith-n-Kin</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:25 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [or-roots] timber in Whitman County WA</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Now that I brought it up, I thought I'd check the actual BLM records. Surprise! These kids had either homesteads, or "cash sales entry - 3 Stat. 566" entries. No "timber culture." Go figure. </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">So, some family "legend" was not quite on target. But what about 2ggrandpa? I don't find his land in Whitman at all. Yet, I've seen the plat maps for said land, and been to the farm personally. My guess is he bought it from the patentee, and it was a secondary sale, therefore not on the land records.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in"><FONT face=Tahoma color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> or-roots-admin@sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin@sosinet.sos.state.or.us] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>JudyRobertson39@aol.com<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, March 21, 2006 15:49<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [or-roots] timber in Whitman County WA</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT id=role_document face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">At one time, before the farming became so prevalent and late in the 1800's there was significant timber on the Palouse Hills. So much so that Rockford Wa (located in southern Spokane County) was inundated with loggers. The loggers tended to enjoy Saturday night and Rockford boasted of the highest crime rate in the US for the period of time that logging went on in the area. These crimes consisted primarily of murdering each other.(Spokane and Whitman counties adjoin)</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>