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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>If you gr. gr. father was in the Civil war, his pension
records or a survivors aff. to get his pension might</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>provide the information. That is how I found
when but not where was by his wifes affid. in support of</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>her claim for his pension. And if you access to
Ancestry.com you and find his unit and you might find</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>whether or not his spouse or other relative made
claim.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Sherry.Cole@ed.gov href="mailto:Sherry.Cole@ed.gov">Cole, Sherry</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us
href="mailto:or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us">or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 22, 2006 6:52
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [or-roots] timber in Whitman
County WA</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=565135114-22032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>I also have
a g.grandfather that died in 1908 and no record of his death. I have had
to use other means and life would have been so simple for me if that death
record had been forwarded over to one central office.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:or-roots-admin@sosinet.sos.state.or.us">or-roots-admin@sosinet.sos.state.or.us</A>
[mailto:or-roots-admin@sosinet.sos.state.or.us]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Eugene V.
Barnes<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 21, 2006 6:37 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [or-roots] timber in
Whitman County WA<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Oregon, I understand passed a law in the 1880s
requiring counties to forward vital stats to one central
office.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>By about 1930 most counties had started to
comply. I have a grandfather who died and there is NO
record</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>of his death in 1905 , and we had a grand child
of his with no date of birth or death crca about 1904, and</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>my father born in 1906 had no birth
certificate. His sister born in MInn had to make a ceclaration in
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>1942 as to his birth. So if you can't
find some one in Oregon, the above is one reason.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The Archives do now have on line late birth and
other late reported events.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=dharguess@coastline.edu
href="mailto:dharguess@coastline.edu">Harguess, Dale</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us
href="mailto:or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us">or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:41
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [or-roots] timber in
Whitman County WA</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Have to pop in
here. I have been searching for my great grandfather for
years. I didn’t know if he died or what, I only knew that he and his
wife divorced and she remarried. They were both born in
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Oregon</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> and my
grandmother was too. It never occurred to me to look in
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Washington</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">. Can you
believe that I found him with a new wife living in Whitman in the 1910
census and on top of that I found my grandmother’s first husband also
living in Whitman in the same census. Now if I could just find out
what happened to him after that. He just
disappears.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">His name was
Thomas Howell and he too had remarried a woman who had a daughter. I
don’t know where they got married but the census said they had been
married either 3 or 4 years, I can’t remember.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Dale</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
or-roots-admin@sosinet.sos.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-admin@sosinet.sos.state.or.us] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B></SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Kith-n-Kin</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:25
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [or-roots] timber in
Whitman County WA</SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Judy</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks!
</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Now
that I brought it up, I thought I'd check the actual BLM records.
Surprise! These kids had either homesteads, or "cash sales entry - 3
Stat. 566" entries. No "timber culture." Go figure.
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">So,
some family "legend" was not quite on target. But what about
2ggrandpa? I don't find his land in Whitman at all. Yet, I've seen
the plat maps for said land, and been to the farm personally. My guess is
he bought it from the patentee, and it was a secondary sale, therefore not
on the land records.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Shows to go you
-- never trust your relatives memories.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Pat</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
or-roots-admin@sosinet.sos.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-admin@sosinet.sos.state.or.us] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of
</SPAN></B>JudyRobertson39@aol.com<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, March 21, 2006
15:49<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">or-roots@sosinet.sos.state.or.us</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Tahoma color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [or-roots] timber in
Whitman County WA</SPAN></FONT></P>
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face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">At one time,
before the farming became so prevalent and late in the 1800's there was
significant timber on the Palouse Hills. So much so that Rockford
Wa (located in southern Spokane County) was inundated with
loggers. The loggers tended to enjoy Saturday night and Rockford
boasted of the highest crime rate in the US for the period of time that
logging went on in the area. These crimes consisted primarily of
murdering each other.(Spokane and Whitman counties
adjoin)</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>