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<DIV>I would estimate 1910, give or take a few years.</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">What years would he have been in this school?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">We do not know what happened to William Bailey after he and Lottie divorced. Would you like to contact me at <A href="mailto:mflansburg@comcast.net">mflansburg@comcast.net</A> and compare notes?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I have another clue I want to check out. My grandmother told me that her husband (Glenn Dale Butler) had a childhood memory of his mother coming to visit him at a school "across the river" from <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Portland</st1:place></st1:City>. He remembered that she would walk across the frozen river in the Winter to visit him.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">This sounds to me like he was in a boarding school??? Were there any boarding schools close to the river in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Vancouver</st1:place></st1:City>. If I could find out info about the school, I might be able to develop the clue into some useful info.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Thanks for all of your input!!!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Karen, <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The Bailey name is my greatest brick wall!!! On the off chance that you might have info I need, here is what I have: <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">William Bailey and Lottie Thomas may have been married in <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Oklahoma</st1:place></st1:State> some time in 1900. They moved to the Portland/Oregon City area early in 1901. While traveling from <st1:State w:st="on">Oklahoma</st1:State> to <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Oregon</st1:place></st1:State>, they stopped in Glen Dale Colorado on February 6th, 1901 while Lottie gave birth to my grandfather, Glenn Dale Bailey. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Some time before 1910, Lottie and William Bailey were divorced. Some time after 1910, Lottie married a man named William Butler. William Butler adopted Glenn. Some time before 1920, Lottie and William Butler passed away. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Glenn lived within the <st1:City w:st="on">Portland</st1:City> area for a while and then ended up in the <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">San Francisco</st1:place></st1:City> area. He married Pearl Williams in 1940 and they lived in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Daly City</st1:place></st1:City> for the rest of their lives. I have plenty of info on <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Pearl</st1:place></st1:City>. She was my grandmother and lived until 1993. Unfortunately, Glenn died in 1963, a year before I was born.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I can not find any record of Glenn’s birth in <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Colorado</st1:place></st1:State>. I also can not find much about his life in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Portland</st1:place></st1:City>. I have one newspaper clipping of him as a member of an Independent Championship Basketball team in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Portland</st1:place></st1:City> in 1924. I found him in the 1920 census in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Portland</st1:place></st1:City> but his parents were already passed away. I can not find any death, marriage or divorce records in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Portland</st1:place></st1:City> or surrounding areas for William Bailey, William Butler or Lottie Thomas/Butler/Bailey.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">If you know anything about a William Bailey, who lived in the <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Portland</st1:place></st1:City> area in the early 1900's, please let me know. You may have a clue that could help me. Thanks!!!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Marcus Flansburg<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Interested in Bailey ancestors, my ggrandmother was a Bailey from <st1:State w:st="on">Ohio</st1:State> to <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Arkansas</st1:place></st1:State>.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Thursday, May 04, 2006 12:23 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT id=role_document face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Has anyone ever heard of Fred Ramsey? He was a pioneer of 1845. There is a lone<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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