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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Carla<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>With
that information, I set out to replicate your results.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>On
the “old” initial form using<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Exact
match<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>david
m christie exact spelling<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>lived
in USA any state<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>1898
to _____<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I
got:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Census
& Voter Lists 7 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>
6 1930 United States Federal Census <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>
1 1900 United States Federal Census <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Birth,
Marriage & Death 18 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>
4 California Marriage Index, 1960-1985 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>
4 Texas Marriage Collection, 1814-1909 and 1966-2002 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>
3 California Divorce Index, 1966-1984 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>
3 Social Security Death Index <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>
1 Cook County, Illinois Death Index, 1908-1988 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>
» View all 18 results <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Directories
& Member Lists 56 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>
34 U.S. Public Records Index <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>
14 Massachusetts City Directories <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>
5 British Phone Books, 1880-1984 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>
2 New Hampshire City Directories <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>
1 Connecticut City Directories <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>One
of these, the 1930 census has (I think) your David M, living in Washington.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The
rest of it of course, has every other David M – and perhaps “your” David M – I didn’t
check them.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>When
I change USA to Canada, the picture changes drastically.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>
2 1930 United States Federal Census <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>
1 1901 Census of Canada <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Birth,
Marriage & Death 1 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>
1 British Columbia Death Index: 1872 to 1979 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Immigration
& Emigration 1 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>
1 Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The
1930 has the David M in Washington, and another in MA, born in 1879, but whose
wife was born in 1898. That is within the general parameters of this type of
query.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The
1901 Canadian census has David M, b 1899 in Ontario, son of David and Robinia. Presumably
yours?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The
BC death index has a Charles David M Christie – no birth date, died 1978. The
age is 68, so I suppose one *<b>could</b>* expect the program to extrapolate
the birth year.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The
Canadian passenger lists has a David M Christie b ca 1895, from Glasgow,
Scotland. Again, the birth year was estimated, and the boat was in Canada.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I
suspect that the other listings you mentioned are not specifically for David M
Christie, but perhaps David Christie. That would be my next “cut” in a search.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Now,
using the “new” search, with the same criteria, I got:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:18.0pt;background:#D8E091'><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><a
href="javascript:TGN.SM.TogSumCat('sumCats_35')"><span style='color:windowtext'>Census
& Voter Lists</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;line-height:18.0pt;background:#D8E091'><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>5 </span><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><a
href="http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1901canada&so=2&pcat=ROOT_CATEGORY&MS_AdvCB=1&rank=1&new=1&MSAV=2&msT=1&gss=angs-g&gsfn=david+m&gsfn_x=1&gsln=christie&gsln_x=1&rg_81004010__date=1898&81004010__date_x=1&msbpn=3243&msbpn__ftp=Canada&msbpn_x=1&msbpn__ftp_x=1&81004030__date_x=1&msdpn_x=1&msdpn__ftp_x=1&msrpn_x=1&msrpn__ftp_x=1&_8000C000_x=1&_80008000_x=1&_80018000_x=1&_80014000_x=1&_80010000_x=1&gskw_x=1&_83004002_x=1&ne=2"><span
style='color:windowtext'>1901 Census of Canada</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;line-height:18.0pt;background:#D8E091'><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>2 </span><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><a
href="http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1911canada&so=2&pcat=ROOT_CATEGORY&MS_AdvCB=1&rank=1&new=1&MSAV=2&msT=1&gss=angs-g&gsfn=david+m&gsfn_x=1&gsln=christie&gsln_x=1&rg_81004010__date=1898&81004010__date_x=1&msbpn=3243&msbpn__ftp=Canada&msbpn_x=1&msbpn__ftp_x=1&81004030__date_x=1&msdpn_x=1&msdpn__ftp_x=1&msrpn_x=1&msrpn__ftp_x=1&_8000C000_x=1&_80008000_x=1&_80018000_x=1&_80014000_x=1&_80010000_x=1&gskw_x=1&_83004002_x=1&ne=2"><span
style='color:windowtext'>1911 Census of Canada</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:18.0pt;background:#D8E091'><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>1 </span><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><a
href="javascript:TGN.SM.TogSumCat('sumCats_34')"><span style='color:windowtext'>Birth,
Marriage & Death</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;line-height:18.0pt;background:#D8E091'><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>1 </span><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><a
href="http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=ontario_births&so=2&pcat=ROOT_CATEGORY&MS_AdvCB=1&rank=1&new=1&MSAV=2&msT=1&gss=angs-g&gsfn=david+m&gsfn_x=1&gsln=christie&gsln_x=1&rg_81004010__date=1898&81004010__date_x=1&msbpn=3243&msbpn__ftp=Canada&msbpn_x=1&msbpn__ftp_x=1&81004030__date_x=1&msdpn_x=1&msdpn__ftp_x=1&msrpn_x=1&msrpn__ftp_x=1&_8000C000_x=1&_80008000_x=1&_80018000_x=1&_80014000_x=1&_80010000_x=1&gskw_x=1&_83004002_x=1&ne=2"><span
style='color:windowtext'>Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1909</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:18.0pt;background:#D8E091'><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>1 </span><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><a
href="javascript:TGN.SM.TogSumCat('sumCats_39')"><span style='color:windowtext'>Military</span></a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;line-height:18.0pt;background:#D8E091'><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>1 </span><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><a
href="http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=cansoldierwwi&so=2&pcat=ROOT_CATEGORY&MS_AdvCB=1&rank=1&new=1&MSAV=2&msT=1&gss=angs-g&gsfn=david+m&gsfn_x=1&gsln=christie&gsln_x=1&rg_81004010__date=1898&81004010__date_x=1&msbpn=3243&msbpn__ftp=Canada&msbpn_x=1&msbpn__ftp_x=1&81004030__date_x=1&msdpn_x=1&msdpn__ftp_x=1&msrpn_x=1&msrpn__ftp_x=1&_8000C000_x=1&_80008000_x=1&_80018000_x=1&_80014000_x=1&_80010000_x=1&gskw_x=1&_83004002_x=1&ne=2"><span
style='color:windowtext'>Canadian Soldiers of World War I, 1914-1918</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:18.0pt;background:#D8E091'><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>1 </span><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><a
href="javascript:TGN.SM.TogSumCat('sumCats_40')"><span style='color:windowtext'>Immigration
& Emigration</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;line-height:18.0pt;background:#D8E091'><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>1 </span><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><a
href="http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=usnaturalizationoriginals&so=2&pcat=ROOT_CATEGORY&MS_AdvCB=1&rank=1&new=1&MSAV=2&msT=1&gss=angs-g&gsfn=david+m&gsfn_x=1&gsln=christie&gsln_x=1&rg_81004010__date=1898&81004010__date_x=1&msbpn=3243&msbpn__ftp=Canada&msbpn_x=1&msbpn__ftp_x=1&81004030__date_x=1&msdpn_x=1&msdpn__ftp_x=1&msrpn_x=1&msrpn__ftp_x=1&_8000C000_x=1&_80008000_x=1&_80018000_x=1&_80014000_x=1&_80010000_x=1&gskw_x=1&_83004002_x=1&ne=2"><span
style='color:windowtext'>U.S. Naturalization Records - Original Documents,
1795-1972</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:18.0pt;background:#D8E091'><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>6 </span><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><a
href="javascript:TGN.SM.TogSumCat('sumCats_42')"><span style='color:windowtext'>Family
Trees</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;line-height:18.0pt;background:#D8E091'><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>2 </span><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><a
href="http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=pubmembertrees&so=2&pcat=ROOT_CATEGORY&MS_AdvCB=1&rank=1&new=1&MSAV=2&msT=1&gss=angs-g&gsfn=david+m&gsfn_x=1&gsln=christie&gsln_x=1&rg_81004010__date=1898&81004010__date_x=1&msbpn=3243&msbpn__ftp=Canada&msbpn_x=1&msbpn__ftp_x=1&81004030__date_x=1&msdpn_x=1&msdpn__ftp_x=1&msrpn_x=1&msrpn__ftp_x=1&_8000C000_x=1&_80008000_x=1&_80018000_x=1&_80014000_x=1&_80010000_x=1&gskw_x=1&_83004002_x=1&ne=2"><span
style='color:windowtext'>Public Member Trees</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;line-height:18.0pt;background:#D8E091'><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>2 </span><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><a
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style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>2 </span><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><a
href="http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=membertrees&so=2&pcat=ROOT_CATEGORY&MS_AdvCB=1&rank=1&new=1&MSAV=2&msT=1&gss=angs-g&gsfn=david+m&gsfn_x=1&gsln=christie&gsln_x=1&rg_81004010__date=1898&81004010__date_x=1&msbpn=3243&msbpn__ftp=Canada&msbpn_x=1&msbpn__ftp_x=1&81004030__date_x=1&msdpn_x=1&msdpn__ftp_x=1&msrpn_x=1&msrpn__ftp_x=1&_8000C000_x=1&_80008000_x=1&_80018000_x=1&_80014000_x=1&_80010000_x=1&gskw_x=1&_83004002_x=1&ne=2"><span
style='color:windowtext'>Private Member Trees</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>David
M does not show up in the 1901 census (one of these is David Horace, the other
is someone else). However, when we change the “range” from 1898 to 1897-1899,
we get David M, who was said to be born 20 Jun 1899 on the census. (Rule 2B – just
as with the 1900 US, the years for the birth are not always accurate – I almost
always give censuses a year or two automatically).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I
don’t know when David M came across to the US, but there is a border crossing
for a David Christie (no M) who came in 1913. In this case, not being quite so
specific on the name, gets the result.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>And,
by opening up the age range, we find David Maitland Christie’s naturalization.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I
know it’s tough to try to second guess Ancestry – or any of the other databases
– when it comes to what a “match” is, but I figure I almost always start with
the “old” basic form, play around with the dates and versions of the name,
until I’ve exhausted ideas – or my patience. The first thing I’d do is drop
the “m” because it is really too narrow. You won’t find the naturalization
record using that, because it uses Maitland.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Only
then do I go to the “broader” search (the “New”) search, because it is a bit
too broad for most purposes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The
“contiguity” queries – as you find in the newspapers – are even tougher. If one
word shows up within x words of another word, you have a hit.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>You
just have to tolerate it if you don’t want to do *<b>all</b>* the looking
yourself.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’ve
built databases and designed queries for them, and believe me, it is a very
tough task. The fact that you can get anywhere with this is amazing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>My
bottom line recommendation is to use the “old” form until you’ve exhausted the
possibilities, then move to the new one if you feel you need to.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I
know this is frustrating, but if you think *<b>you’re</b>* frustrated, multiple
yourself times the number of members of Ancestry, each with slightly different
needs, abilities, and takes on what’s important, and then put your many selves
into Ancestry’s shoes, and try to meet all those needs, abilities, and
priorities.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I
just wish my relatives had been kind enough to always spell their names the
same way, spell them to the enumerator for the census, keep important dates in
a family book, such as the Bible, and make sure everyone had a copy, generation
after generation, not move around between censuses, especially to two or more
locations, and if completing documents for military pensions, wills and so on,
be sure to name the wife by her family name and given name, as well as her two
parents and any siblings. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Sigh.
. . .<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Pat
(in Tucson)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us] <b>On Behalf Of </b>cklooster@aol.com<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 18, 2009 3:51 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [or-roots] Ancestry.com - Response to Pat<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Okay Pat in Tuscon...here's a
quick example. If I do a search for my maternal grandfather, David M.
Christie born 1898 in Ontario, Canada, and stipulate that priority be given to
US collections and that all terms be matched exactly; I get eight responses.
The first two are actually accurate; an entry on the One World Tree, and a US
Naturalization Record. The last six are for unrelated individuals ranging
from David Horace Christie to Paschal A.M. Christie. What kind of
"exact match" is that? If I uncheck the "match all terms
exactly" box and repeat the search, I get 431,864 (not a bazillion, but
you get the picture) responses, but of the first twenty on the page, only the
first two (same two as the first search) are the right person. <strong>Now
before anyone on the list decides to help me out, please understand that I'm
just giving this as an example...I already know everything I need to know about
my grandfather.</strong> <img border=0 width=19 height=19 id="_x0000_i2137"
src="http://o.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/resources/core/images/smile.gif"
alt=":-)"> My point is that there are a number of other records on
Ancestry.com that reference this man...several border crossing references as
well as US census records. Since I know where he was living in any
given year, it is relatively simple to give much more detailed information to
pull up the records I needed. But had I not known what state or county he
was living in, or if I did not know his birthplace or birthd ate, sorting
through all of the "hits" on Ancestry is cumbersome and time
consuming. <br>
<br>
I am working on a number research projects that involve people about whom
much less is known than I know about my grandfather. These are the
situations in which the limitations of the Ancestry search function is
less than satisfactory...and don't even get me started about the silly search
function for the vintage newspaper collection on Ancestry which pulls bits of
two different words together to make a single word "matching" your
search term!<br>
<br>
What I would like is a search function that is more accurate and can be defined
more narrowly if needed...if I give the name of a person who was born, died,
and resided in Alaska in a given time period, I am pretty much not interested
in 400,000 people with similar names living in the other 48 states in other
time periods.<br>
<br>
I know...picky, picky!<br>
<br>
In short, I've been using Ancestry since its inception and will continue to do
so (or at least until my dwindling 401K and Ancestry's increasingly horrendous
subscription price bring my research to an end) but from time to time I feel
the urge to vent my frustration. Consider my frustration vented!<br>
<br>
Carla <br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Kith-n-Kin <Kith-n-Kin@cox.net><br>
To: 'or-roots mail list' <or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us><br>
Sent: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 7:57 am<br>
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Ancestry.com<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I
rarely have a problem of “too many hits” when I look someone up – unless, of
course, there are a bazillion of them.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Could
you give us a name and parameters so we can try to replicate what’s happening?
I’ve not been able to figure out what the problem is.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Pat
(in Tucson)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us"><u><span
style='color:blue'>or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</span></u></a> [<a
href="mailto:or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us?"><u><span
style='color:blue'>mailto:or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</span></u></a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:cklooster@aol.com"><u><span
style='color:blue'>cklooster@aol.com</span></u></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 16, 2009 11:58 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us"><u><span
style='color:blue'>or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us</span></u></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [or-roots] Ancestry.com</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Ancestry.com...the site you love to hate...or hate to
love. If they are actually blaming their recent woes on AOL or Firefox,
they're delusional. I have Explorer7 and have been experiencing the same
frustration as others posting on this list. Some of the problems seems to
have been resolved, but last night Ancestry wouldn't open several census pages
("try again later") and returned a <em>"This individual is not
listed on Worldwide Tree"</em> statement for several different people who
were identified on the trees in the search function. Parts of the site
were working but other parts obviously were not. The website continues to
be slow-slow-slow to load. I suspect that they've outgrown their
technical capabilities and are trying to play catch-up. I continue to be
frustrated with their search function that returns a bazillion people no matter
how restrictive you set the search parameters. I do think it is
worthwhile to keep giving them feedback about the aspects of the site that are
less than stellar. The areas that are identified as problematic by the
most people will undoubtedly get the most attention...<em>squeaky wheel</em>
and all that. <br>
<br>
Carla<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: JOHN LAURA MCKINNEY <a href="mail%20%20to:birdman_326@msn.com"><u><span
style='color:blue'>birdman_326@msn.com</span></u></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Hi, folks. I called ancestry, and they told me that
folks using aol or firefox has been an issue since updating. They had me
load int. explorer 7 and now I can get in. Thanks, Laura<o:p></o:p></p>
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