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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My father Glenn Patrick lost his left arm on
January 1,1916 while working as a</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>fireman as a result of a railroad wreck on the O
& C railroad near Winchester, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Oregon.The collision was between trains of the
Southern Pacific R R.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have a picture of a O&C craine trying to put
Dads engine back on line .</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Anyone know any more about this.?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 26, 2009 7:18
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [or-roots] MM Melvin and the
O & C RR</DIV>
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<P><BR>The Spokane, Portland, And Seattle Railroad Historical Society I belive
had some information on the O & C, regretably there part of the Clark
County Historical Society museum was closed, because of remodeling and does
not have the funds to reopen, and all their records Etc. are in storage.</P>
<P>The SP&S Historical Society does have a couple of books out, do not
rememeber off hand if there was anything in them for the O&C.</P>
<P>The Oregon Historical Society I know has some things on the O&C, you
may also be able to get information on a particular individual that worked on
the railroad from the Railroad Retirement Board which is located in
Chicago.</P>
<P>Glen Jones, Portland 38year, veteran of the BNSF RR and its
forerunners. <BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From:
"Kith-n-Kin" <Kith-n-Kin@cox.net><BR>To: "or-roots mail list"
<or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us><BR>Sent: Wednesday, February 25,
2009 5:24:14 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific<BR>Subject: Re: [or-roots] MM
Melvin and the O & C RR<BR><BR>Les<BR><BR>Interesting. Austin and Dill
*the Southern Pacific in Oregon* have:<BR><BR>In 1851 a railroad was proposed
by Mr. H. M. Knighton to run from St. Helens<BR>on the Columbia River, across
Cornelieus Pass, to Lafayette which was then a<BR>principal city in the
Willamette Valley. Nothing developed of this proposal,<BR>although, in 1906,
James Hill's Oregon Electric Railway would use a similar<BR>route. . .
<BR><BR>Legislative session 1853-54:<BR><BR>1. The Willamette Valley Railroad
Company, which proposed a line from<BR>Portland to the head of the Willamette
Valley.<BR>2. The Oregon and California Railroad Company, which proposed a
line from<BR>Eugene City to "some point in the Willamette Valley below Oregon
City"<BR>3. The Cincinnati Railroad Company, which planned to build from the
town of<BR>Cincinnati in Polk County to the "Polk County Coal Mines."<BR>4.
The Clackamas Railroad Company, proposing a line around the
Willamette<BR>River Falls at Oregon City. <BR><BR><BR>"On November 21, 1866,
Gaston incorporated the Oregon Central Railroad<BR>Company with offices in
Portland, Oregon. The Legislature in 1866 designated<BR>the Oregon Central
Railroad as the company to construct theline in oregon,<BR>thereby giving
Gaston's line the needed land grant. . . ." This was<BR>essentially by
"reincorporating" the "California and Columbia River" group.<BR>Confused
yet?<BR><BR>Then, along comes S. G. Elliott, (California) who, acting on
behalf of the<BR>interests that controlled the "Oregon and California
Railroad" offered to<BR>"buyout" the Oregon Central Railroad. Gaston was
opposed, and won, more or<BR>less. Some of the incorporators split and joined
Elliott. Elliott then<BR>started his own company, calling it the Oregon
Central Rail Road Company.<BR>(note the "rail" "road" instead of
"railroad")<BR><BR>So, they fought, and eventually, Gaston's westside (the
original) company<BR>became the Southern Pacific Railroad lines in Oregon.
<BR><BR>Ben Holladay a transportation "magnate" took over the eastside
lines,<BR>eventually gaining control (1870s) and sold $10.5 mil in bonds to
complete<BR>the "Oregon and California" Railroad. <BR><BR>So, you want to know
whether Melvin stuck with Gaston, or swung over to<BR>Elliott and Holladay.
Unfortunately, Melvin isn't mentioned, so you have<BR>some more work cut out
for you.<BR><BR>This is a fascinating story. Sometime hard to follow, but fun
none-the-less.<BR><BR>Whew!<BR><BR>Pat <BR>Tucson,
AZ<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From:
or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us<BR>[mailto:or-roots-bounces@listsmart.osl.state.or.us]
On Behalf Of Leslie<BR>Chapman<BR>Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 7:34
PM<BR>To: Oregon List<BR>Subject: [or-roots] MM Melvin and the O & C
RR<BR><BR>At last I have found hard evidence linking my great grandfather and
the O &<BR>C Railroad;<BR><BR>Oregon Historical Quarterly Vol
VII<BR><BR>ariticle on; The Genesis of the Oregon Railway System by Joseph
Gaston which<BR>starts on page 105. On page 111-112; The Oregon Lesgislature
met in<BR>September, 1866, six weeks after Congress granted the lands in aid
of the<BR>road. It was decided to abandon the orininal organization which had
so far<BR>promoted the enterprise, and accordingly the writer of this paper
prepared<BR>articles for the incorporation of "The Oregon Central Railroad
Comapny,"<BR>[why have I always thought it was 'Oregon and Califonria"?]the
office and<BR>headquarters of which should be at Portland, Oregon. These
articles were<BR>signed by J.S. Smith [etc, etc] M. M. Melvin, [etc
etc].<BR><BR>Gaston goes on to apparently defend the actions of the company
and claim<BR>credit for himself as well as give his authority to write the
history as he<BR>being at the time [1902] the only surviving founder. The
article is followed<BR>by another one on the subject of the Oregon Central by
S. A. Clarke which<BR>begs to differ with Gaston on some pertinent
facts.<BR><BR>I haven't read it in it's entirety, but it looks to be very
interesting. The<BR>two article together run to page 144 and I notice in
one othe evidentiary<BR>documents grampa's name is spelled
Melvine??<BR><BR>Les C<BR><BR>PS there are several Oregon Quarterly editions
available on google books
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